Quote Originally Posted by UncleChoo View Post
I'm doing an ace side count with my normal. I'm not using Zen but an almost identical count system. Over time and with lots of practice, you learn to maintain both counts. I count my aces upwards rather than backward. Not sure why authors mostly suggest counting Aces backward. So if my normal count is say +7 and if I saw 3 Aces, mentally I'm thinking of two columns +7 3. It is easier to count aces forward rather than backward because all you have to do is look at the discard tray and you can easily see if poor or rich aces. Just my thoughts on the matter.
It seems you are using Hi OPT II with ASC. Right? Counting aces in an 8-deck shoe is not easy. When I did it, I stack 8 white chips up in a pile and then I remove one chip from the top whenever 4 aces are gone. This is still too obvious to the casino because I was backed off for doing this. I've never tried two column numbers.