Counting 10s only

[Rsx1212]

Hey everyone. I'm a new counter. Please forgive me if I'm posting in the wrong place or if I'm oblivious and ignorant to the whole counting ordeal. I'm not a mathematician nor have any advanced math other than calculus in college which I totally forgot. I'm looking for flaws in my elementary system. At the moment, the standard hi/low counting system is a bit sophisticated for me so I'm not using it.

I've been counting just 10s (10,J,Q,K). Depending on how many 10s are left (6 decks) towards the end of the shoot within 3 decks range and 2 decks out of the 3 are unplayable, I would bet higher - 4-8x minimum when my count is there are 60 or more 10s left in the remaining 120-150 cards. This leaves me with 0.50+ chance of expecting a 10 on draw and allows me to hit/double/split/stand accordingly. The rest before it I use basic strategy.

I know I'll be judged on my unconventional / unproven system. But I was hoping you guys can point out the flaws of this system and how it can be destructive in the long run.

The reason why I ask is because I've had some luck, whether it is dumbfound luck, perhaps. I've played 3 separate sessions at different casinos. Table rules at these casinos were 3:2, 8 decks(cut 2 decks) and 2:1, 6 decks(cut 1-2 decks) . Minimum bet was 25. Started with 1000 and walked with 1850. My original funds never fell below 750-800. But if someone can explain to me the dangers/flaws of this system, I would appreciate it.

What are my chances of success to failure?

[lij45o6]

Sounds like a poor-man's Ten-count.

You are better off going with something like the KO count system.

Short-run results mean nothing.

You were just lucky so far.

[Jack Daniels]

The only 2 things I see missing in your system are a reasonable stop loss and CV. No system works all the time. What you are looking for is one that gives you enough edge against the house to end up with some cash after a few runs. With a reasonable stop loss, and a test platform like CV that will not have any effect on your bankroll, you have everything you need.
I myself have been testing my system with various modifications for the past five years. They will work for a while and then fail woefully. The second-best investment I ever made was CV.

I am not in any way associated with the producers of this product.

[Rsx1212]

The only 2 things I see missing in your system are a reasonable stop loss and CV. No system works all the time. What you are looking for is one that gives you enough edge against the house to end up with some cash after a few runs. With a reasonable stop loss, and a test platform like CV that will not have any effect on your bankroll, you have everything you need.
I myself have been testing my system with various modifications for the past five years. They will work for a while and then fail woefully. The second-best investment I ever made was CV.

I am not in any way associated with the producers of this product.

Thsnks for the info. What is CV?

[Jack Daniels]

Thsnks for the info. What is CV?

Sorry CV is a Blackjack Software called Casino Verite. I believe the producers do not want this forum to be used for selling the product, so they may take this down right away. Good luck my friend.

[lij45o6]

The only 2 things I see missing in your system are a reasonable stop loss and CV. No system works all the time. What you are looking for is one that gives you enough edge against the house to end up with some cash after a few runs. With a reasonable stop loss, and a test platform like CV that will not have any effect on your bankroll, you have everything you need.
I myself have been testing my system with various modifications for the past five years. They will work for a while and then fail woefully. The second-best investment I ever made was CV.

I am not in any way associated with the producers of this product.

What do you mean stop-loss?

What matters is your edge and getting bets out in +EV rounds.

We are concerned with the long run.

Rsx1212 : consider getting Blackjack Attack 3rd edition before you step into another casino.

[Freightman]

dogman said

consider getting Blackjack Attack 3rd edition before you step into another casino.

Notwithstanding this classic is a must for any serious blackjack library, OP level says he/she is far better off with Wong’s Professional Blackjack and/or Snyder’s Blackbelt in Blackjack. Both books address both beginners and very experienced players. Even after all of these years, I still refer to both books.

I refer to BJA3. BJA is far too advanced for OP. I do understand that the upcoming BJA4 will also include a section on the regaled FBM ASC.

[lij45o6]

dogman said


Notwithstanding this classic is a must for any serious blackjack library, OP level says he/she is far better off with Wong’s Professional Blackjack and/or Snyder’s Blackbelt in Blackjack. Both books address both beginners and very experienced players. Even after all of these years, I still refer to both books.

I refer to BJA3. BJA is far too advanced for OP. I do understand that the upcoming BJA4 will also include a section on the regaled FBM ASC.

OP also mentioned they think Hi Low is too advanced for them.

Hence my recommendation for KO.

BJA3 for a reference to other skills/data/advice to learn with KO

[21forme]

I agree with the two above posts. DOn't use a half-assed system as you're doing now. Either HiLo or KO gets the money and neither is hard to learn/master.

[Rsx1212]

What do you mean stop-loss?

What matters is your edge and getting bets out in +EV rounds.

We are concerned with the long run.

Rsx1212 : consider getting Blackjack Attack 3rd edition before you step into another casino.

I read up on KO count. Pretty neat. I may try it out.

[Craigrow]

If I took a Sharpie and marked -1, +1 or 0 on each card, could you keep the count? Of course you could. It’s so easy anybody could do it. You just need to train your brain to recognize X and A as -1, 2-6 as +1 and 7-9 as zero. That just takes a bit of repetition. Anybody can count.


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[aceside]

Hey everyone. I'm a new counter. Please forgive me if I'm posting in the wrong place or if I'm oblivious and ignorant to the whole counting ordeal. I'm not a mathematician nor have any advanced math other than calculus in college which I totally forgot. I'm looking for flaws in my elementary system. At the moment, the standard hi/low counting system is a bit sophisticated for me so I'm not using it.

I've been counting just 10s (10,J,Q,K). Depending on how many 10s are left (6 decks) towards the end of the shoot within 3 decks range and 2 decks out of the 3 are unplayable, I would bet higher - 4-8x minimum when my count is there are 60 or more 10s left in the remaining 120-150 cards. This leaves me with 0.50+ chance of expecting a 10 on draw and allows me to hit/double/split/stand accordingly. The rest before it I use basic strategy.

I know I'll be judged on my unconventional / unproven system. But I was hoping you guys can point out the flaws of this system and how it can be destructive in the long run.

The reason why I ask is because I've had some luck, whether it is dumbfound luck, perhaps. I've played 3 separate sessions at different casinos. Table rules at these casinos were 3:2, 8 decks(cut 2 decks) and 2:1, 6 decks(cut 1-2 decks) . Minimum bet was 25. Started with 1000 and walked with 1850. My original funds never fell below 750-800. But if someone can explain to me the dangers/flaws of this system, I would appreciate it.

What are my chances of success to failure?

A few month ago a guy named Moraine published a book to sell his system of counting only high cards. I showed some interest in his system but all other forum members all beat him up. He counted all 10, J, Q, K and ace cards.

[Mr. Ed]

Hmmm….. Personally, I feel comfortable adding and subtracting negative numbers, and I think there is something very comfortable about a system that starts at zero and ends at zero. And along the way, my advantage/disadvantage jumps out to me. The circle is completed. I like HiLo.

By counting only tens (or tens and aces?) you start with a finite number, and go toward zero. Seems like a natural process, and it mimics the relative size of the shoe. But There is an additional step, since you have to compare your actual count to some baseline. To me, it feels more difficult.

I also like that HiLo can give a shoe a “five star rating”, since most ramps stop at a true count of +5. I can tell my sister (zero interest in gambling) that I was at a +5 shoe, and she says, “Wow! That was exceptionally good”. And she can share my excitement.