Break Even Spread

[vegaskid]

I don't play often enough to justify buying software, so I was wondering if someone could run a quick simulation to answer a question for me. What spread and ramp would be needed to break even using Hi-Lo in the following game (play all): 6D, 75% penetration, H17, DAS, RSA, LS? Thanks in advance!

[Freightman]

I don't play often enough to justify buying software, so I was wondering if someone could run a quick simulation to answer a question for me. What spread and ramp would be needed to break even using Hi-Lo in the following game (play all): 6D, 75% penetration, H17, DAS, RSA, LS? Thanks in advance!

Why bother simming.
1-12, off the top of my head. Better pen reduces spread required. Poorer spread requires greater spread.
What stakes are you playing - can you afford not to have CVCX

[bigplayer]

With those rules I'd guess that a 1-3 spread play-all would get you to breakeven. Toss in some well timed bathroom breaks and departures and get a slight edge.

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[Freightman]

House edge off the top of my head is about .5 to .55. Call it .5 for ease.
true <1 unit
true 1 - 2 units
true 2 -3 - 4 units
true 3-4 - 6 units
true 4-5 - 8 units
5+ - 12 units

adjust for bankroll and tolerance to risk. It’s helpful to do this at the table. For better results, FBM ASC.

[vegaskid]

With those rules I'd guess that a 1-3 spread play-all would get you to breakeven. Toss in some well timed bathroom breaks and departures and get a slight edge.

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Thanks. I was guessing somewhere around 1-4 would get me there.

[vegaskid]

Why bother simming.
1-12, off the top of my head. Better pen reduces spread required. Poorer spread requires greater spread.
What stakes are you playing - can you afford not to have CVCX

I mostly play red to light green. I can afford software, but it never seemed worth it for the one or two trips I make to Vegas per year these days to play a few hours of BJ with friends. Break even with a few comp meals thrown in for good measure is good enough.

[aceside]

Why bother simming.
1-12, off the top of my head. Better pen reduces spread required. Poorer spread requires greater spread.
What stakes are you playing - can you afford not to have CVCX

I believe bigplayer is correct on this, but I haven’t seen any games with RSA-resplitting Aces.

[vegaskid]

I believe bigplayer is correct on this, but I haven’t seen any games with RSA-resplitting Aces.

Yeah, 1-12 seems pretty aggressive just to break even. I would guess 1-12 would result in a decent edge, somewhere between 0.50% and 0.75%.

[bigplayer]

All depends on your personal utility. If you play for comps and free vacations and want little to no risk of being kicked out a tight spread approach for comps is not a bad play. It all about what you're playing to achieve.

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[G Man]

I don't play often enough to justify buying software, so I was wondering if someone could run a quick simulation to answer a question for me. What spread and ramp would be needed to break even using Hi-Lo in the following game (play all): 6D, 75% penetration, H17, DAS, RSA, LS? Thanks in advance!

A simple question requires a simple answer.
From CVCX, using Ill-18 a spread of 1-3 is required to break even in this game.
0 or less bet 1
+1 or more bet 3

Don't want the jump spread?

Play 2 at +1 and 3 at +2 or more.

[vegaskid]

A simple question requires a simple answer.
From CVCX, using Ill-18 a spread of 1-3 is required to break even in this game.
0 or less bet 1
+1 or more bet 3

Don't want the jump spread?

Play 2 at +1 and 3 at +2 or more.

Thanks, much appreciated! @bigplayer, you nailed it.

[G Man]

Thanks, much appreciated! @bigplayer, you nailed it.

BP is very rarely wrong!

[aceside]

Hi Norm, I noticed a problem with this forum. Somebody consistently stepped on “unhelpful” to whatever posts I made. This does not help the discussion here. Could you please investigate into this matter to see who is doing this?