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Thread: CVData basic strategy doesn't match wizard of odds for 66 vs 7 , 77 vs 8

  1. 08-30-2021, 01:30 AM #1
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    CVData basic strategy doesn't match wizard of odds for 66 vs 7 , 77 vs 8

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    That's Zen, not BS.
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    I think you're comparing DD, DAS strategy with "multi-deck" strategy. In this particular case, splitting 66 vs 7 and 77 vs 8 is ok for SD and DD games, any other number of decks should follow CVData Basic Strategy charts for multi-deck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    That's Zen, not BS.
    No, double deck BS shows the same mistake. Regardless, it's still the wrong move for zen.

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    I think you're comparing DD, DAS strategy with "multi-deck" strategy. In this particular case, splitting 66 vs 7 and 77 vs 8 is ok for SD and DD games, any other number of decks should follow CVData Basic Strategy charts for multi-deck.
    No, unchecking multi-deck does not change it, and setup has 2 decks set. Someone verify
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    Also found a type-O for you

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  7. 09-01-2021, 03:35 AM #7
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    There are no DD tables in CVData. You can add your own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fwb View Post
    No, unchecking multi-deck does not change it, and setup has 2 decks set. Someone verify
    Read again what Norm wrote. You are comparing Wizard's DD Basic Strategy which shows correctly that you should split 66 vs 7 and 77 vs 8 in DD games but CVData doesn't have specific DD Basic Strategy, so you are looking at multi-deck strategy in CVData even if you have DD checked.

    You will have to create your own DD BS chart in CVData to run realistic simulations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fwb View Post
    Also found a type-O for you

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    The attachment doesn't work. And type-O is a blood type. You might mean "typo" (short for typographical error).

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    Quote Originally Posted by G Man View Post
    Read again what Norm wrote. You are comparing Wizard's DD Basic Strategy which shows correctly that you should split 66 vs 7 and 77 vs 8 in DD games but CVData doesn't have specific DD Basic Strategy, so you are looking at multi-deck strategy in CVData even if you have DD checked.

    You will have to create your own DD BS chart in CVData to run realistic simulations.
    Here is the built-in strategy that says Double Deck and still isn't splitting 6's against 7. What am I doing wrong?






    And here is the typo I found...
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    You can create a user strategy based on an included strategy and make any changes you wish.
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    Yes, but Norm, REKO for DD included strategy should show a Basic Strategy where you split 66 vs 7 and 77 vs 8, no ?
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    I can't look at the moment as I'm in the middle of a large change to CV.
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