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    Calculate EV

    Hello

    Hopefully someone can help me again with the following question.
    I saw at the wizard of odds the following chart.
    https://wizardofodds.com/blackjack/i...-ties-push.gif
    It is when the dealer accidentally exposes his hole card.
    Now I'm wondering if there is a way to calculate the EV of these situations, especially against an Ax?
    I have CVCX, but as far as I know there is no option to do that.
    Normally I use the cdca software to calculate exact EV% but unfortunately there is no option for exposed hole cards.
    So I hope someone can tell me how they got to this chart/which program they used?

    Kind regards

    Joris

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    CVData creates strategies and simulates them for hole-carding and partial hole-carding. (Partial HC means you know it's one of a few cards, but don't know which.)
    "Croyez ceux qui cherchent la vérité, doutez de ceux qui la trouvent." --André Gide

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    especially against an Ax?” can you clarify your question? What is exactly this “Ax”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aceside View Post
    especially against an Ax?” can you clarify your question? What is exactly this “Ax”?
    aceside,

    In a deck of standard cards, the King of Diamonds is the Ax card ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Hand View Post
    aceside,

    In a deck of standard cards, the King of Diamonds is the Ax card ;-)

    Dog Hand
    So you will never forget - the reference comes from the fact that the King of Diamonds is the only King holding an Axe all other Kings are pictured holding a sword.

    Cheers

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    But, the King of Cups has them all beat:

    tarot-cups-14.jpg
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    TY for the answer, gonna buy CVData and play a bit with it.

    And regarding Ax, I meant an ace with a random other card (at least thats the way it is/was described in poker back in the day).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Hand View Post
    aceside,

    In a deck of standard cards, the King of Diamonds is the Ax card ;-)

    Dog Hand
    And I thought Ax referred to the square root of the first variable in the quadratic equation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBrightside View Post
    TY for the answer, gonna buy CVData and play a bit with it.

    And regarding Ax, I meant an ace with a random other card (at least thats the way it is/was described in poker back in the day).
    I thought about this Wizard table again and found a problem here. If the dealer's hand is accidently exposed, the player should have a lot of hands to be able to surrender at least, but this surrender decision is not considered by the Wizard.

    Also, it seems it is useless to find the exact EV numbers for a particular hand. All we care about is if this hand has a positive EV. Attached I list the positive EV hands when the dealer has small card values. This table will be useful when the dealer offers pulling out your hand totally in some situations.

    When the dealer has large hand values, I hope Norm can post these numbers. However, it seems it should be very easy to estimate when to surrender. For a dealer A+x hand, you can mostly treat it as a 1+x hard hand. Attachment 4614Capture2.JPG
    Last edited by aceside; 09-08-2021 at 05:20 PM.

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    Nobody responded to this question but I received two unhelpful. This is weird.

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