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    I have run my own sim with my program based on the proposed basic strategy and the house edge is -0.54%. I don't think any commercial software can handle my game rules without any modification.

    I am still waiting for experts to help me verify my BS and sim results. I am very confident in my results (but not 100% sure!), but only someone needs to verify it. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

    Below are my sim results and proposed BS :-

    Dealer's card/round = 2.82
    Player's card/round = 2.95

    HE = -0.54%
    Variance = 1.28
    Element of risk = -0.48%

    SP BS.jpg

    S4 - STAND, except hit with 4 or more cards
    S5 - STAND, except hit with 5 or more cards
    S6 - STAND, except hit with 6 or more cards
    P77 - SPLIT, except HIT if suited 7,7 vs any 7(Hope to get special bonus, 1 Pay 200)

    PINK cell - HIT if any 678 is possible
    ORANGE cell - HIT if any suited 678 is possible
    GREY cell - HIT if any SPADE 678 is possible

    Double Down Rescue : 12-16 vs 8-A, 17 vs A
    Last edited by James989; 07-30-2021 at 05:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James989 View Post
    I don't think any commercial software can handle my game rules without any modification.
    Why do you think this? This is outright trivial compared to what commercial software can sim.
    "I don't think outside the box; I think of what I can do with the box." - Henri Matisse

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    Quote Originally Posted by aceside View Post
    I have been winning without counting in Spanish 21. This makes me think that my talent might be in Spanish.
    This makes me think you've been lucky. Exactly what "talent" are you using to overcome the house edge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Why do you think this? This is outright trivial compared to what commercial software can sim.

    I know commercial software have many more and complex features to simulate the spanish 21 game.


    What I mean is that commercial software can't handle some of my specific game rules such as DDR*, OBBO . . .it is not because it is difficult but just it does not include such rule. Wrong ?

    can you help to verify my sim results ?

    Thanks

    * Please note that DDR of my game rule is not just simple double down rescue(surrender after double down), it include this scenario :-

    For example, when you double down, 3 cards total 20 and decided not surrender, when dealer reveal her hole card and she have PONTOON(or BJ), player only loss 1 unit !
    Last edited by James989; 07-30-2021 at 11:04 PM.

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    CVData has long supported these rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Natural View Post
    It might not be frozen .. it just runs with no indication of progress .. i have a pretty fast machine and it hangs up for a few minutes to calc this EV. Try waiting longer.

    Are you trying to learn S17 or H17?
    I tried your parameter setup today using this program to calculate the EV component for the 5+Card-21/678/777 autowin bonus, but could not get any result. My laptop ran for 15 minutes and then showed me an error messages "...application error..." and the program crashed. So far I have not been able to verify this particular EV component.

    However, the Double Down Rescue was very smooth, and I got the result of EV=+0.05%.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    How do you double down rescue with a 2 card hand
    Very rarely, I double down on a split Ace. This is counted as a 2-card hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronbog View Post
    This makes me think you've been lucky. Exactly what "talent" are you using to overcome the house edge?
    Let me just reveal my trick here to you. If I don't see aces in two rounds, I switch to two hands with a doubled original bet on each hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aceside View Post
    Let me just reveal my trick here to you. If I don't see aces in two rounds, I switch to two hands with a doubled original bet on each hand.
    It's also important to cross the fingers on your left hand.

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    I wish vBulletin had the option of moving individual posts to the disadvantage forums

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    Quote Originally Posted by iCountNTrack View Post
    I wish vBulletin had the option of moving individual posts to the disadvantage forums
    Are you implying my post upstairs? Let me assure you this. This trick to beat Spanish 21 is pair splitting and multiple hand playing. Compared to blackjack, Spanish 21 have a lot more splitting opportunities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Natural View Post
    Well you're half right
    Can you help run the MGP program to calculate the EV component for the 5+Card-21/678/777 autowin bonus? My laptop ran for 15 minutes on this calculation and then showed me an error message "...application error..." and then the program crashed. I am very sure I set up the rule parameters correctly.
    Last edited by aceside; 08-02-2021 at 06:30 AM.

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    Save and post your rule set file and I'll give it a shot.

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