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Thread: How many cards are used each hand by average when playing Spanish 21?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aceside View Post
    If you have a two-card hand of 6, 5 and the dealer has an upcard of 10, and you doubled down to put more money on the felt, but the dealer gets a Blackjack later in NHC games, and finally you lost both your double down and original bet. This is what I mean a dealer can trick you into putting out more money in a NHC game.

    “Why does Freightman prefer an NHC game heads up with a fast dealer.” I have noticed you saying this many times, but haven’t been able to apprehend why.
    Hopeless analytics. Oh, NHC is original bets only. You’re thinking ENHC.

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    I think maybe it’s time to differentiate the minute differences between HC and NHC games.

    In a shitty count, you want to burn through cards ASAP. NHC does that because dealer doesn’t take second card until all players have finished - Advantage NHC.

    In a good to great count, when your bet is big, dealer peeks, scoops the table and the round is over right now. In NHC, everyone plays out first and then dealer scores blackjack. You are burning through more cards resulting in less rounds remaining to play, thus lower EV, your high spread in good count HC overcomes the cost of low spread shitty count - Comprende’ - Advantage HC.

    Why does Freightman prefer NHC heads up or with one other fast player, with a fast dealer especially in consideration of above? Now, if dealer is peeking 38.5% (face card or ace up) the game slows down.

    NHC, Have you ever seen a very fast and good dealer and player - both in sync with the other. The game is played at light speed. It’s a thing of beauty. Huge hands per hour easily overcome the HC advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Took me awhile to figure out the dryness of your intent Quite funny
    Thanks. Didn't think it was too far out, especially for a yiddishe kopf like yours :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    Thanks. Didn't think it was too far out, especially for a yiddishe kopf like yours :-)
    Thanks.
    Hmm, a yes or no poll - who got it? We could ask aceside!

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    Why should anyone -- particularly since it's a mix of Yiddish and German? Let us concentrate on casinos and AP.
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    Can I move this to disadvantage forum :grin:

    Moderating a BJ forum could be a royal pain, but threads like this are entertaining
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Why should anyone -- particularly since it's a mix of Yiddish and German? Let us concentrate on casinos and AP.
    Has nothing to do with post 29, everything to do with post 25 and appears post 26 is on track.

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    Norm thinks a little humor is worse than a guy who thinks he's the god of BJ, yet hasn't made a correct statement in almost 400 posts.

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    Some people's concept of humor is year after year of name-calling. Abusive ad hominem is a poor substitute for -- well, anything. Aceside's posts are rarely correct. Saying such is more useful than equally feeble attempts at rhetorical wit.
    Last edited by Norm; 07-19-2021 at 08:25 PM.
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    Norm, Can you help me verify the proposed basic strategy and house edge of SPANISH 21 game ? I am not 100% sure about my simulation results.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James989 View Post
    Norm, Can you help me verify the proposed basic strategy and house edge of SPANISH 21 game ? I am not 100% sure about my simulation results.

    Thanks.
    Hi, I have been waiting for you or anybody to simulate these two EV contributions:
    5+CARD 21 or 678 or 777-AUTOWIN BONUS: +0.??%
    Double down rescue: +0.??%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Some people's concept of humor is year after year of name-calling. Abusive ad hominem is a poor substitute for -- well, anything. Aceside's posts are rarely correct. Saying such is more useful than equally feeble attempts at rhetorical wit.
    What? Where did you get this impression? Correctness is about the third decimal places for you, but I want innovations. What new here?

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    Norm, so is he a troll? Can anyone be this oblivious to reality?

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