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    The Ethics of only playing high when Pit Boss is around as a way to get better Comps?

    There are Blackjack Players who admit that they play REALLY high when the Pit Boss is around in order to get better Comps and then lower their bets when the Pit Boss isn't around.... Is this Ethically wrong? :/

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    It's a good comp Gambit but limited effectiveness these days. Comps at 21 suck because the theo is low. You have to have a really inattentive pit and start betting big to start. If your avg bet isn't $300 to $500 you aren't going to get much. Most table game comps these days come based on your actual loss, not from theo. $300 avg bet at most places will yield about $30/hr in comps but a $5000 trip loss will yield about $500 in comps. As far as ethics, if it's legal all is fair. Trust me, casinos will push the envelope against you in every way possible.

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    This is about pit boss but unrelated to the topic discussed above. I recently played in front of the first dealer and lost around 2k. I moved to another table where I got back my 2k and an extra one. Suddently, the dealer was replaced by the previous one (the first one that I run away from after losing 2k). I started losing against her again around 1k but then I quickly got it back. Guess what? The pit boss showed up and announced a change of cards. I took my chips and run away. Is the change of cards/dealers a tactics used by pit boss to scare the players? After all, a new set of cards might bring a long lasting losing streak especially that no matter how much you shuffle the cards, they are not well shuffled till after several rounds of play.

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    This is going to get you booted out fast isn’t it?

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    Indeed, it worked. I immediately followed the exit sign. I remember a horrible evening where after the pit boss ordered a change of cards, all my wins evaporated quickly. I continued playing for almost twelve hours. The end result was a painful loss of 3k. I never got out of the hole during that long period of play, neither anyone else who joined briefly the table and run away screaming in pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackjack Newbie View Post
    There are Blackjack Players who admit that they play REALLY high when the Pit Boss is around in order to get better Comps and then lower their bets when the Pit Boss isn't around.... Is this Ethically wrong? :/
    There are no “ethics” involved in trying to get comps. That’s like saying counting cards is a lack of integrity. You’re using your brain to gain an advantage. And if betting big when the pit is watching gets good comps, who cares.

    However, this assumes several dumb moves. First, you have to be playing rated. Second, your (potentially) losing bets may amount to more than the comp. Third, if I were a smart pit boss, (I know, they are rare) I’d just hover your table, forcing the big bets.

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    I'm new here... I think it's going to be very fun trying to figure out who is & isn't a troll

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vendetta View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by tex View Post
    The pit boss showed up and announced a change of cards. I took my chips and run away. Is the change of cards/dealers a tactics used by pit boss to scare the players? After all, a new set of cards might bring a long lasting losing streak especially that no matter how much you shuffle the cards, they are not well shuffled till after several rounds of play.
    I wasn't sure that you were implying that a new deck of cards is somehow different than the deck that had been in use. Then you posted this:
    Indeed, it worked. I immediately followed the exit sign. I remember a horrible evening where after the pit boss ordered a change of cards, all my wins evaporated quickly. I continued playing for almost twelve hours. The end result was a painful loss of 3k. I never got out of the hole during that long period of play, neither anyone else who joined briefly the table and run away screaming in pain.

    I haven't played in Texas (no fiddle in my band), but I would bet that they show the players all the cards when a new deck is brought to the table. Additionally, there is no more reason to think that a new deck will "bring a long-lasting losing streak" than the old deck will.

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