See the top rated post in this thread. Click here

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 20

Thread: Team Play Blackjack

  1. #1


    0 out of 1 members found this post helpful. Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No

    Lightbulb Team Play Blackjack

    Hello there. I’m seeking a group of 6 people who would be interested in meeting in vegas and playing team blackjack at a 25-5000 table which can be found at ceasears, Bellagio, planet Hollywood, mirage, cosmo, and mandalay bay. If 4 or more hands lose, we’d bet $50 and so on until at least 4 out of 6 hands win. We continue this for 1 shoe and then leave on a table win. After this, we divide the profits evenly.

    Based on my calculations we’d get about 16 hands in for 6 players. Playing basic strategy gives us a lose rate of 51 percent. .51^8= 0.45 percent chance of losing the bankroll for one person. This is divided out over 6 people for a 0.076 percent chance of losing the bankroll as a group.

    Comment below and privately we can share contact info.

  2. #2


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by DocSpaulding View Post
    Hello there. I’m seeking a group of 6 people who would be interested in meeting in vegas and playing team blackjack at a 25-5000 table which can be found at ceasears, Bellagio, planet Hollywood, mirage, cosmo, and mandalay bay. If 4 or more hands lose, we’d bet $50 and so on until at least 4 out of 6 hands win. We continue this for 1 shoe and then leave on a table win. After this, we divide the profits evenly.

    Based on my calculations we’d get about 16 hands in for 6 players. Playing basic strategy gives us a lose rate of 51 percent. .51^8= 0.45 percent chance of losing the bankroll for one person. This is divided out over 6 people for a 0.076 percent chance of losing the bankroll as a group.

    Comment below and privately we can share contact info.
    Doc, you're on the wrong site for this. This is a forum for people who play the game with an advantage. What you're suggesting isn't going to win you any money, and most of the people here know that.

    Don

  3. #3


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    Doc, you're on the wrong site for this. This is a forum for people who play the game with an advantage. What you're suggesting isn't going to win you any money, and most of the people here know that.

    Don
    oh i thought this was the general forum, not the advantage play. But sure it will, I included math. I'd take expected value to be 12 a hand

  4. #4


    1 out of 1 members found this post helpful. Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by DocSpaulding View Post
    oh i thought this was the general forum, not the advantage play. But sure it will, I included math. I'd take expected value to be 12 a hand

    This IS the general forum, but what I'm explaining is that you aren't going to find your teammates here. The people here know that you can't gain an advantage at a negative-edge game by employing a betting strategy. Basically, what you're suggesting is how to weave straw into gold, and you aren't going to get any takers here.

    Don

    P.S. A favor: PLEASE don't explain the math to us!

  5. #5


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    I'm not flipping an advatage. the house remains with an edge even with basic strategy. What i'm saying is the dealer won't beat 6 players with a vegas range of 25-5000 table . Its a simple (.51^8)/6. 1 player may get creamed with a martingale (.0045 or .45% chance), but that's why we divy it up against 6 the odds go down to .00076 or .076% chance. If organized, we can beat the casinos and at least pay for our trip.

  6. #6


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    what you're suggesting is how to weave straw into gold
    Don - if you're putting together a team for this, I'm in.


    Quote Originally Posted by DocSpaulding View Post
    What i'm saying is the dealer won't beat 6 players with a vegas range of 25-5000 table .
    Doc - you obviously don't know who you are conversing with. Don has written THE book on modern blackjack math. And you are wrong.

  7. #7
    Banned or Suspended
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Agharta
    Posts
    1,889


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Ok. I'm on your side. You could do this. A bloke calling himself Norman Leigh did something similar with the game of Roulette circa 1970 and in the South of France as I recall. His approach involved a biased wheel system-whereby the betting structure would automatically expose and thereby exploit any biased wheels. His purportedly successful Mushroom Gang was eventually shut down by the casino gambling authorities. He details his exploits in a book he titled, Thirteen Against the Bank. I'm sure you can locate a copy in an online used bookstore. However, be careful and judicious of who you choose for your recruits! Leigh was not and it proved to be his downfall. And while on the subject of gambling systems, have you ever heard of Parrando's Paradox?
    Last edited by Jabberwocky; 06-16-2021 at 03:33 PM.

  8. #8


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Perhaps I should find Don's book on amazon just in case my math is incorrect. Don't want to lose money, looking to make money. But I ran the numbers here, and even showed it.

  9. #9


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    I've seen roulette ruin people with lots of straight reds or lots of straight evens etc. I wouldn't touch that, especially with the triple 0's i've been seeing. But i'd love to add you to the facebook group with Blong, Lorenzo and I if you're interested @jabberwocky

  10. #10


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Here's a link to the book: https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/shop...-the-pros-way/
    A better price than on amazon.

    Bottom line - you can't beat the game (long term) with money management systems, such as progressions. Anything can happen short term.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Hi-lo for team play
    By spitz in forum General Blackjack Forum
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 04-05-2019, 09:49 PM
  2. Team play
    By Cardsfan55 in forum General Blackjack Forum
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 03-29-2019, 05:42 AM
  3. Replies: 9
    Last Post: 10-25-2012, 12:55 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

About Blackjack: The Forum

BJTF is an advantage player site based on the principles of comity. That is, civil and considerate behavior for the mutual benefit of all involved. The goal of advantage play is the legal extraction of funds from gaming establishments by gaining a mathematic advantage and developing the skills required to use that advantage. To maximize our success, it is important to understand that we are all on the same side. Personal conflicts simply get in the way of our goals.