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    Quote Originally Posted by bigplayer View Post
    You don't have to sign anything. Casino merely needs to document the date and time contemporaneously and those business records will carry weight in any court proceeding against you. That said, unless you repeatedly return after being trespassed few jurisdictions will cite you without first giving you the opportunity to leave. Your mileage may vary depending on where you are. Tribal casinos tend to have the most extreme variety of actions. Some will actually steal your bankroll and boot you.

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    X2....I used to at least get certified letters....no mas, they, literally, read (shout) it to you on your way out the door....then, you may even receive a citation in the mail (not certified) that you have x # days to respond or you'll have a warrant for your arrest

    To be clear, the above examples are when read 'tresspass act' as you scoot out the door....then return and play after some time

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBear4SJ View Post
    LOL. Really? Paranoid much?
    You are not paranoid if they really are out to get you.

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    JBourne said
    You are not paranoid if they really are out to get you.
    Norm said
    “Paranoia is just reality on a finer scale.” -James Cameron
    Freightman clarifies - Just because you are paranoid does not mean they are not out to get you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharky View Post
    you may even receive a citation in the mail (not certified) that you have x # days to respond or you'll have a warrant for your arrest
    Obviously from a sheriff's office? What state was this in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBourne View Post
    You are not paranoid if they really are out to get you.
    LOL. I was responding to your statement:
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    Part of the casino's goal is to harass or intimidate,
    That is just not true and is genuinely laughable. A goal of casinos is to "protect" their assets, true. But that is a far cry from being a goal of harassment and intimidation. If you feel they are really out to get you, I'd suggest you may need to look at the full spectrum of your techniques.

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    Technically, not a Tresspass, but I overheard a Player in my Local Casino telling another Player his Family forced him to order a Self Exclusion ban from another Casino ater he was sitting up in that Casino gambling just two days after his Brother was suddenly murdered when he REALLY should have been at home grieving the sudden loss of his Brother along with other Family Members. He said his Family forced him to sign a "I agree to be self excluded and agreed to be escorted off the property if caught in that Casino again." So, if you sign a paper, it's official. If you didn't, it's just intimidation and not an official tresspass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBear4SJ View Post
    LOL. I was responding to your statement:

    That is just not true and is genuinely laughable. A goal of casinos is to "protect" their assets, true. But that is a far cry from being a goal of harassment and intimidation. If you feel they are really out to get you, I'd suggest you may need to look at the full spectrum of your techniques.
    To say it as accurately as I can - they want you to STOP doing what you are doing. So, yes, they are protecting their assets. That is the goal. If the tactic of harassing and intimidating makes you not come back then they have accomplished their goal. Not sure how that qualifies as laughable.

    When you say full spectrum of techniques, I would like to understand more. If you count, use a large spread, and don't make mistakes - it's detectable. I make every hour count and I know it will not last forever. As for other AP moves, I have not done any of that (yet).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryemo View Post
    Exactly. If a casino asks you to leave and never return, that is considered a trespass. No formal papers needed. I’m pretty sure Bob N has discussed this several times on GWAE.
    Looks like Bob N. said it exactly that way on the 3/18/21 GWAE Podcast.
    [03:03] Do casinos have to read the trespass act before 86'ing someone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBourne View Post
    When you say full spectrum of techniques, I would like to understand more. If you count, use a large spread, and don't make mistakes - it's detectable.
    If you play mechanically, yes, the correlations will be picked up rather quickly and you'll find yourself in the situations you're describing. You need to work on your cover play is what I'm saying -- add to the spectrum of techniques you employ, not just churning like an automaton. You may want to make "every hour count" but if the number of hours you're "allowed" to work is cut, then you have played into their tactic. I've worked successfully for 25 years and my long-term average income floats between 3 and 5 base units per hour. I've been backed-off, sure, but managing the "resources" of the stores available to me, I've eventually been able to work even those back into the rotation.

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