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    Quote Originally Posted by stefan View Post
    2x10
    2x50
    2x150
    2x200
    With you bets strategy-

    For 1 Kelly you must have Bankroll 15.562 units.
    100 hands/1 hour= win rate 54 units/1 hour
    This game have Score 35.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Well, CVCX will show you the correct values.

    I agree. But CVCX doesn't work with 3/6 penetration. My linear formula works here. My unique russian Exel calculator also works. )))
    Last edited by Gramazeka; 06-07-2021 at 02:38 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramazeka View Post
    I agree. But CVCX doesn't work with 3/6 penetration. My linear formula works here. )))
    Not for the faint of heart. Solid bankroll relative to bets required and willing to overcome variance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Think you mean 2.5.
    DI of 25 translates to a modest SCORE of 625.
    This was written in the help for SBA or BJRM.Any game with a Score less than 25 is hopeless.

    And "I originally came up with N0 with my work on Optimal Spread Theory. Any N0 more than around 20000 is probably unplayable, unless you Wong which really can lower it, and good single deck games should be less than 10000. Dr. Brett Harris."

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    Current br is 70k my r.o.r at 2.5 decks off was 0.1%
    The cvcx suggested me the bets almost like you post gramazeka but I try to make it more simple with green and black chips to earn time for me and for the payments to the dealer.there wasn't serious difference to the results with optimal bet.

    I counted per hour 178 rounds to be dealt with 125.61 $ w/h
    Last edited by stefan; 06-07-2021 at 02:56 PM.

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    I forgot to add that it will take you 289 hours to reach 1 Sigma at game speed 100 hands/1 hour. Good game ? )))
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    Quote Originally Posted by stefan View Post
    Current br is 70k my r.o.r at 2.5 decks off was 0.1%
    The cvcx suggested me the bets almost like you post gramazeka but I try to make it more simple with green and black chips to earn time for me and for the payments to the dealer.there wasn't serious difference to the results with optimal bet.

    I counted per hour 178 rounds to be dealt with 125.61 $ w/h
    With my bets strategy 7,14, and Max bet TC 3 win rate = 77 units/1 hour. Bankroll for 1 Kelly= 22.214 units. And 1 Sigma after 288 hours. Do you see the difference now? Win rate 54 or 77.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramazeka View Post
    EV with BS -0.2, not -0.32
    Both wrong. 6D S17 = -0.546. DAS = +0.142. RSA = +0.069. ES10 = +0.241. BS = -0.094.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    50% pen is often done in U.S. jurisdictions where they cannot back you off for counting, such as MO and AC.
    I am not sure if this is done just against him. If this is all the time, this is crazy, as usually 2 decks cut off is more than enough to kill all counting opportunity. Being half-shoed on occasion as a counter measure does happen, just not that often anymore.

    I have seen one casino go to 2 decks cut off all the time, every shoe, after I visited them. I probably was not the only one hitting them, surely, but I remember one dealer giving me an angry look after I came back too quickly. I suppose the lower dealing rate meant less tips and my mug was probably shown to them.

    Suffice to say, I won't go there for a long long time :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    Both wrong. 6D S17 = -0.546. DAS = +0.142. RSA = +0.069. ES10 = +0.241. BS = -0.094.

    Don

    Don what about enhc ?

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    I have 6D S17 = -0.6536 (enhc)
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    Quote Originally Posted by stefan View Post
    Don what about enhc ?
    Did I miss something? Where did it say ENHC? It would add -0.109, to make -0.203. But he didn't say ENHC.

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    So ... HE -0.2! Its a base ...

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