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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Kinda sorta possibly maybe on the right track, but off. Also, I never did bother to learn BJAnalyst crypto talk, so, if you could decipher 8m0.5*9m2A and m2A, I’ll respond further.
    BJAnalyst used this kind of notations, where 8m1.5*9m2A means the side count of 8 minus the running count of 9 multiplied by 1.5 and then minus the running count of Ace multiplied by 2. Then everything is converted to TC by dividing by the number of the remaining decks. It seems your FBM is beyond my ability of comprehension, so I thinking to let it go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aceside View Post
    BJAnalyst used this kind of notations, where 8m1.5*9m2A means the side count of 8 minus the running count of 9 multiplied by 1.5 and then minus the running count of Ace multiplied by 2. Then everything is converted to TC by dividing by the number of the remaining decks. It seems your FBM is beyond my ability of comprehension, so I thinking to let it go.
    Seems to me the crypto talks is more complex than mine. BTW, what’s your other handle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aceside View Post
    I believe I have got a little more hint of your FBM. Your high cards are 910JQKA, low cards 234567, and neutral 8. To calculate your QTC, you need to count 8m1.5*9m2A for insurance. Approximately, you just use m2A for QTC. Is this on the right track?
    It would be very difficult to arrive at any usable system by using side counted ranks. This is an example of the Wong Halves counting system using doubled tags. (Divide RC and TC ref by 2 if using undoubled tags.)

    It shows insurance indices depending upon cards remaining taking into consideration a separate side count of aces, eights, and nines. In the example 12 of each have been input meaning that exactly 12 are present for all cards remaining values, but any valid number of the side counted cards removed could have been input. (Minimum number of aces that could be removed is 1 because insurance requires an up card of ace.)

    The point is that incorporating side counts is not easy if not impossible. If a side count is attempted it would probably be best to limit it to one rank only.

    Code:
    Count tags {2,-1,-2,-2,-3,-2,-1,0,1,2}
    Decks: 6
    Insurance Data (without regard to hand comp)
    Side counted subgroup removals (no input defaults to minimum):
    {1} (1 to 24): 12
    {8} (0 to 24): 12
    {9} (0 to 24): 12
    
    **** Player hand: x-x ****
    Cards   RC      TC ref
    
    276     -36     -6.78
    275     -40     -7.56
    274     -42     -7.97
    273     -44     -8.38
    272     -46     -8.79
    271     -48     -9.21
    270     -50     -9.63
    269     -49     -9.47
    268     -48     -9.31
    267     -50     -9.74
    266     -48     -9.38
    265     -47     -9.22
    262     -46     -9.13
    261     -45     -8.97
    259     -44     -8.83
    257     -43     -8.70
    256     -42     -8.53
    254     -41     -8.39
    252     -40     -8.25
    250     -39     -8.11
    248     -38     -7.97
    247     -37     -7.79
    245     -36     -7.64
    243     -35     -7.49
    241     -34     -7.34
    240     -33     -7.15
    238     -32     -6.99
    236     -31     -6.83
    234     -30     -6.67
    233     -29     -6.47
    231     -28     -6.30
    229     -27     -6.13
    228     -26     -5.93
    226     -25     -5.75
    224     -24     -5.57
    222     -23     -5.39
    221     -22     -5.18
    219     -21     -4.99
    217     -20     -4.79
    215     -19     -4.60
    214     -18     -4.37
    212     -17     -4.17
    210     -16     -3.96
    208     -15     -3.75
    207     -14     -3.52
    205     -13     -3.30
    203     -12     -3.07
    202     -11     -2.83
    200     -10     -2.60
    198     -9      -2.36
    196     -8      -2.12
    195     -7      -1.87
    193     -6      -1.62
    191     -5      -1.36
    189     -4      -1.10
    188     -3      -0.83
    186     -2      -0.56
    184     -1      -0.28
    182     0       0.00
    181     1       0.29
    179     2       0.58
    177     3       0.88
    176     4       1.18
    174     5       1.49
    172     6       1.81
    170     7       2.14
    169     8       2.46
    167     9       2.80
    165     10      3.15
    163     11      3.51
    162     12      3.85
    160     13      4.22
    158     14      4.61
    156     17      5.67
    155     18      6.04
    153     19      6.46
    151     20      6.89
    150     21      7.28
    148     22      7.73
    146     23      8.19
    144     24      8.67
    143     25      9.09
    141     26      9.59
    139     27      10.10
    137     28      10.63
    136     29      11.09
    134     30      11.64
    132     31      12.21
    130     32      12.80
    129     33      13.30
    127     34      13.92
    125     35      14.56
    123     36      15.22
    122     37      15.77
    120     38      16.47
    118     39      17.19
    116     40      17.93
    115     41      18.54
    113     42      19.33
    111     43      20.14
    109     44      20.99
    108     45      21.67
    106     46      22.57
    104     47      23.50
    102     48      24.47
    100     49      25.48
    99      50      26.26
    97      51      27.34
    95      52      28.46
    93      53      29.63
    91      54      30.86
    90      55      31.78
    88      56      33.09
    86      57      34.47
    84      58      35.90
    82      59      37.41
    81      60      38.52
    79      61      40.15
    77      62      41.87
    75      63      43.68
    73      64      45.59
    71      65      47.61
    69      66      49.74
    67      67      52.00
    65      68      54.40
    64      69      56.06
    61      70      59.67
    58      72      64.55
    57      70      63.86
    56      71      65.93
    55      74      69.96
    54      72      69.33
    
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    Last edited by k_c; 05-18-2021 at 03:01 PM. Reason: Correct Data

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    I just checked my algorithm and the values I posted are not entirely right. I have a method for speeding up the computation of insurance indices to determine the minimum running count to consider and it may not be working properly using those side counts.

    Edit:
    I corrected the data in the first post. The values for 156 or fewer cards were OK. With the removal of 12 each of side counted 8,9,ace the running count and true count ref were negative early in the shoe.

    k_c
    Last edited by k_c; 05-18-2021 at 04:16 PM. Reason: Notify of revision

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    Quote Originally Posted by aceside View Post
    BJAnalyst used this kind of notations
    Yes, and boring 'twas.
    "I don't think outside the box; I think of what I can do with the box." - Henri Matisse

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    Freightman:

    I find NO worthwhile to look at as I evaluate different opportunities. As a part-timer I dont rely on AP for income, that said i am interested how many hours (or years) I have to stick with it to overcome 1SD in variance. For a FT player - it may be even more important unless they are able to grind out hours.

    Food for thought.

    Cohiba

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cohiba View Post
    i am interested how many hours (or years) I have to stick with it to overcome 1SD in variance.
    Make that "overcome one standard deviation." Period.

    Don

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    @everyone

    Freightmans dual ramp intermediates taken into account and rub ur balls to feel great method is a complete joke. First of all, there is no way he isnt making mistakes left and right. Which probably nullifies whatever extra advantage he might theoretically get. Second, why bother with this when hi low gets the money and is simple. Upgrade to halves like I did and call it one.

    Freightman is an internet creep and predator. Dont let him trick you.

    Dalmatian

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmatian View Post
    @everyone

    Freightmans dual ramp intermediates taken into account and rub ur balls to feel great method is a complete joke. First of all, there is no way he isnt making mistakes left and right. Which probably nullifies whatever extra advantage he might theoretically get. Second, why bother with this when hi low gets the money and is simple. Upgrade to halves like I did and call it one.

    Freightman is an internet creep and predator. Dont let him trick you.

    Dalmatian
    I would have a battle of wits with you, however, you appear unarmed. You project delusions of adequacy and competency which contradicts the ridiculousness of your commentary.

    Go supplement your losses with pizza delivery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    I would have a battle of wits with you, however, you appear unarmed. You project delusions of adequacy and competency which contradicts the ridiculousness of your commentary.

    Go supplement your losses with pizza delivery.
    I am only waking from a deep slumber. Soon I shall unleash "THE FURRY". And the entire blackjack scene will feel it. You'll be in line waiting to sign my new blackjack book: "Dalmatian's Grand Tour: A story of blackjack & erotic conquests around the world"

    Dalmatian

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmatian View Post
    I am only waking from a deep slumber. Soon I shall unleash "THE FURRY". And the entire blackjack scene will feel it. You'll be in line waiting to sign my new blackjack book: "Dalmatian's Grand Tour: A story of blackjack & erotic conquests around the world"

    Dalmatian
    Lets see now. Claims bet level of up to 2x500, sleeps in car. Likely plays in crumpled clothing, tired because of no sleep while dining on Big Macs and fries. No fucking clue of casino comportment followed by tales of woe, being screwed by critters, and of course the deleted post a couple of days ago of you spouting racial slurs, lamenting faulty bowels due to sexual aids utilized in perverted fashion. Forgot the other item.

    Don't think I’ll be standing in line. In fact - I fart in your general direction.

    https://youtu.be/FWBUl7oT9sA

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    Every possible way to make money has its downsides, that’s why in a free market like the labor market there is a thing called compensation. The rarer it is to find somebody who is either able (due to difficulty of the task...rocket scientist) or willing (the hours and stress of an executive, risk to life or money, or just plain shit work) to perform a task, on a sliding scale of how valuable of a service you provide to the market, the more compensation the market will support for your skills. It’s not rocket science it’s simply the logic of a free market system.

    The key to happiness is to find the job/jobs/career which best align with your strengths and yet have the downsides that fit best with your personality, lifestyle and goals. If I were to draw a Venn diagram of the population which reflected that overlap for a professional blackjack player the center would be about the size of a tiny dot. Translation: DUH. You hate it because almost everybody does. The few that don’t are probably broken or fractured in a very special and rare way (that’s a complement to those of you who do this as a full time career).

    That’s why most settle on it being a part time vocation. Sounds like you should too OP...while the time and money spent on becoming proficient is a sunk cost, you still have the skill set, now you just have to find a way to make it fun and infrequent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    In fact - I fart in your general direction.

    https://youtu.be/FWBUl7oT9sA
    Now THAT is a skill set that has market value

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