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    Don’t ever become a full time card counter

    If you have the skills to succeed you have the skills in business to make a lot more. Everything I do business wise I build for the future and ever dollar I made counting I got harder and harder to play. I would say recreational only but who wants a hobby that could result in a net loss. You have to play so many hours in today’s shitty game to but you at the best possible chance to be ahead for the year that your most likely better served spending that time doing something else. Finding your passion, working towards a long term goal , spending time with friends or family

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    One more thing to add. If you a professional advantage player ( make your living off money won for a casino) and are averaging more then 250-300k a year it is highly likely you will get a criminal record regardless if you did anything illegal or not. Casinos hate winners.

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    I hope you are saying this in jest or metaphorphically or else how does the casino or anyone else force a criminal record on you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goatlife View Post
    One more thing to add. If you a professional advantage player ( make your living off money won for a casino) and are averaging more then 250-300k a year it is highly likely you will get a criminal record regardless if you did anything illegal or not. Casinos hate winners.
    As a professional advantage player you not only need to calculate the odds of the game but also need to calculate "people" (e.g. Casinos). You need to determine what type of enemy the casinos are and develop a plan to beat them. I learn that through life experience dealing with some uncompromising and intimidating people.

    "The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand." Sun Tuz, The Art of War.

    "You [have to] know what the opponents can do, what their strengths and weaknesses are ... [and] what to do in every situation.” Sun Tuz, Art of War.

    Opponent in this case is the casino.
    Last edited by seriousplayer; 05-30-2021 at 08:08 PM.

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    It's OK to do for a while but eventually getting a game in the modern environment becomes an issue. I'd say do it short term and have an exit plan. It's great though as side income. Expenses are the real enemy to an AP who plays to a realistic risk level. That and the unfair tax code.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigplayer View Post
    It's OK to do for a while but eventually getting a game in the modern environment becomes an issue. I'd say do it short term and have an exit plan. It's great though as side income. Expenses are the real enemy to an AP who plays to a realistic risk level. That and the unfair tax code.

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    Move to Canada. Even without an outside source of income, it’s really tough to be classified as a pro for tax purposes. With an outside income source - damn near impossible. Further, Canada/US tax treaty treats Canadian table games players very generously. Slot 0,Ayers also have favourable tax status (as in lower tax rates than US residents)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigplayer View Post
    I'd say do it short term and have an exit plan. It's great though as side income.
    I'd second both those statements. I've done it fulltime for months at a time when between payroll jobs. Now, it is basically the source of my grocery and incidentals money. Even with that modest income, it allows me to funnel most of my payroll income into mortgage paydown, retirement savings, and other investment. Only "needing" modest amounts takes pressure off as well as allows me to play at a level that attracts less attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigplayer View Post
    It's OK to do for a while but eventually getting a game in the modern environment becomes an issue. I'd say do it short term and have an exit plan. It's great though as side income. Expenses are the real enemy to an AP who plays to a realistic risk level. That and the unfair tax code.

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    Unfair tax code? I like that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goatlife View Post
    who wants a hobby that could result in a net loss
    Name some hobbies that are profitable. Certainly not golf, traveling, gardening, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    Name some hobbies that are profitable. Certainly not golf, traveling, gardening, etc.
    Omaha Hi and Chinese poker online. Now is the golden time for that. To many player now online. COVID 19.
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