How should I handle the following scenario:
I am backcounting a shoe and see a favorable entry point. I put my chips into the betting circle. Another player at the table says "will you wait until the end of the show before coming in?" Also, this is not another counter saying this, it's just some ploppy worried about "the flow of the cards" or some other superstition.
Should I just ignore the player, or how should I respond?
How does the OP know the guy is not a counter?
If you are going to play, play. Don't make up some BS excuse that is only going to bite you in the ass. The other player isn't your friend and isn't going to be happy so why bother making up idiotic excuses that will require more lies when your wife doesn't show up.
Let me die in my sleep like my Grandfather.
Not screaming in agony like his passengers.
I have a question from the opposite direction. How would you respond to a player's request to sit in, if you are counting and the counts are getting favorable? Assuming MS entry is allowed, you don't really have the right to prevent him/her from joining, but would you want to at least try something to discourage him/her, if it's going to be different from what's mentioned in the opening post?
I agree with Shadroch on this. The following is pretty much my exact answer to a similar question in another thread. You could ask if its ok to play, but that opens you up for the line of, "just wait a few hands". If you wait you may miss an opportunity, if you jump in after they told you to wait you may cause a confrontation and draw attention to yourself. When I find its time to jump into a game I very rarely ask. Its easier to play dumb and ingnorant and apologize for not knowing better than it is to try to muscle your way through a table of know it alls. And once your in, the damage as they see it is already done and you don't need to worry about it anymore. Of course if you leave before the shoe ends, be prepared for the onslaught of how stupid you are. Its better to find humor in it all rather than trying to prove your right or pick a fight, afterall, aren't we really the ones in control anyway?
Who cares? If you want to enter the game, do it. If you're already playing and don't want someone to enter the game, ask them not to. But ultimately, they can if they want. If we were all so concerned about what other people around us prefer, we wouldn't make half the plays we make at the tables. You're in this to win. You don't have to be a jerk about it, but it's not only you're right to refuse the ploppy's request or request that someone not enter your game, but you have a responsibility to at least try to do whatever you can to position yourself to capture the greatest edge you can. The player who asks you not to enter is doing so because he thinks it's best for him. And you should do what's best for you.Originally Posted by BJmath
"There is no passion to be found playing small, in settling for a life that is less than the one you are capable of living."
If you try to jump in and they ask you to wait, you could ask the dealer if it's NMSE [of course it's not]. If someone's about to jump in on your table, ask if they could wait till the end of the shoe, or at least a few more hands, before ruining the "flow of the cards". I think being nice about it makes it a little easier...instead of saying, "Please wait for the next shoe" you might try, "If you don't mind, I'd like to finish this shoe myself...but if you want to jump into this shoe, could you wait another few hands?"
"Everyone wants to be rich, but nobody wants to work for it." -Ryan Howard [The Office]
I just put the bet in the circle. That almost always works. If the whole table is up in arms, and the dealer holds the game up over it, I usually just say "sorry". It sucks, but there really is no way around it, you have to get your money in there.
The Cash Cow.
Another reason it's good to have a stock of chips from the casino already. Makes the process a lot quicker, and an awkward situation potentially a little less awkward, versus waiting for the "MONEY COMING IN" call, the shuffling of chips, counting and showing them for the camera, that whole process, all while suffering the angry glares of some fool convinced you just caused him the next seven hands of bad luck...
Best yet, first round after you sit you get a blackjack, and the dealer goes on to beat the rest of the table
Last edited by Mr. White; 03-20-2013 at 09:05 AM.
"I did it for me..... I liked it. I was good at it...and I was...really...I was alive..."
Once while getting my arse kicked at 3CP, a guy comes along and puts chips in the circle to my right. Doesn't even sit down as he's playing just the one hand. Three 7s.
Would have/should have been my hand. Whatchagonnado?
Let me die in my sleep like my Grandfather.
Not screaming in agony like his passengers.
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