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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaconne View Post
    I agree with Zee on this one. In fact, I just got back tonight from a three-day trip there. I've been going to Vegas every two-to-four weeks for the past five years, even during the COVID period. Definitely some solid games there. One casino, in particular still takes my action although my cumulative win there is upper-five figures.
    That's been my experience in Vegas as well. Yes, most of the games are junk or overly sweaty, but with thousands of tables within a few miles, there are still a number of playable games as well.

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    I would be careful in PA. PA is relatively new to gaming. From what I understand, according to PA laws; they can trespass you for any reason. I have not played in PA since Covid started but their rules are pretty decent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 151Proof View Post
    From what I understand, according to PA laws; they can trespass you for any reason.
    How does that differ from other jurisdictions?

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    Well, not any reason. They can't trespass you for being Asian. In NJ, they need a good reason.

    One woman was put on the PA state exclusion list after she tipped her cocktail server with cash — and a bag of methamphetamine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 151Proof View Post
    I would be careful in PA. PA is relatively new to gaming. From what I understand, according to PA laws; they can trespass you for any reason.
    Casinos don't have to give a reason to trespass you. Most call it a "business decision."

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    That depends on the jurisdiction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    That depends on the jurisdiction.
    Let's leave NJ and MO out of the equation. For all the other states, it applies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    Let's leave NJ and MO out of the equation. For all the other states, it applies.
    In MO, they have politely told me at one casino that whichever table I play, they will deal only one deck of six, that Zi am free to play other games. I went to eat, returned to a full table, the pit guy whispered in the dealer’s ear and they immediately re+shuffled. The new 6deck was cut by one of the players, dealer cut off five decks. The ploppies started glaring at me as all this happened after I sat at the table. I left.

    At others, except one, they cut off 3 decks. That one seems to not care a damn, cuts off 5.5 off 6 decks but I never seem to win at their tables or casino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    In MO, they have politely told me at one casino that whichever table I play, they will deal only one deck of six, that Zi am free to play other games. I went to eat, returned to a full table, the pit guy whispered in the dealer’s ear and they immediately re+shuffled. The new 6deck was cut by one of the players, dealer cut off five decks. The ploppies started glaring at me as all this happened after I sat at the table. I left.

    At others, except one, they cut off 3 decks. That one seems to not care a damn, cuts off 5.5 off 6 decks but I never seem to win at their tables or casino.
    The technique of choice here, perfected to an art by Bob Fisher in A.C., where they also can't bar you, was to move in on a table as they are shuffling, causing the dealer to cut off five decks there. Stay for the one deck (or not), then move on. Repeat all day long, causing them losses in revenue at all those tables where all they do is shuffle instead of deal the cards. Of course you have to have a lot of time on your hands and have as your goal to try your best to screw the casino, rather than make money for yourself. Kind of fun, though, no? See how many simultaneous shoes you can force them to cut 1/6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    The technique of choice here, perfected to an art by Bob Fisher in A.C., where they also can't bar you, was to move in on a table as they are shuffling, causing the dealer to cut off five decks there. Stay for the one deck (or not), then move on. Repeat all day long, causing them losses in revenue at all those tables where all they do is shuffle instead of deal the cards. Of course you have to have a lot of time on your hands and have as your goal to try your best to screw the casino, rather than make money for yourself. Kind of fun, though, no? See how many simultaneous shoes you can force them to cut 1/6.

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    Don, it was difficult because other ploppies started asking the dealer why they are dealing so few and the dealer would reply that “they think there is a card counter at the table”. The ploppies would glare at you or watch you. In local casinos where regulars abound, the fact that locals know you as a card counter means trouble as you might be running into them at another local casino as well.

    In any case, I don’t enjoy those things...don’t like back off either and so, minimizing heat by keeping my spread low and max bet small is how I am comfortable handling it. I was also doing stupid stuff like not splitting or doubling down or doubling for less etc., till the folks on this forum corrected me for my stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Don, it was difficult because other ploppies started asking the dealer why they are dealing so few and the dealer would reply that “they think there is a card counter at the table”.
    You need to play their game, Zee. After the dealer makes his comment, you can respond, "So they only want losers playing here?" and follow it along those lines. Glares don't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Well, not any reason. They can't trespass you for being Asian. In NJ, they need a good reason.
    I was just told "at this point we are going to exercise our right to refuse service". They declined to further explain it, but I'm certain it's not because I'm Asian.

    And I'm not in NJ, so no good reason required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBourne View Post
    but I'm certain it's not because I'm Asian.
    I am wondering why "Asian" has been used a lot in this situation. Why not you just say "blacks"

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