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    Quote Originally Posted by aceside View Post
    I have been an AP for less than three years. I just want to make fun of you.
    Piece of advice that it is 100% certain you will ignore. You have discovered this forum, and because you are home all day along with the rest of the country, you are bored and have lots of time on your hands. You are able to post 20 times a day just because, well, you can. But no one here is going to take you seriously because, by your own admission, you're just looking "to make friends." You aren't looking to learn. And, well, for most, this isn't a social club.

    There's an old adage that goes something like this: No one ever learns by talking. The only way you can learn is by listening. Another version of the same idea: God gave you one mouth and two ears so that you can listen twice as much as you talk.

    Anyway, you see what's happening. Serious posters here have all made you for the troll that you are. And, that usually ends badly for the troll. Word to the wise. But, we already know what you think of the "authorities."

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    Anyway, you see what's happening. Serious posters here have all made you for the troll that you are. And, that usually ends badly for the troll. Word to the wise. But, we already know what you think of the "authorities."
    I noticed I received some dislike on my posts and has become careful posting here. I understand what you are saying and would like to read more and to listen to everybody more. Just like Arnold said, I am a blackjack soldier, counting down a whole deck. You are very inspiring!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aceside View Post
    I have been an AP for less than three years. I just want to make fun of you.
    kind of like saying I wanted to pet a rattlesnake....On this forum, the survivors are too tough to make fun off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    The technique of choice here, perfected to an art by Bob Fisher in A.C., where they also can't bar you, was to move in on a table as they are shuffling, causing the dealer to cut off five decks there. Stay for the one deck (or not), then move on. Repeat all day long, causing them losses in revenue at all those tables where all they do is shuffle instead of deal the cards. Of course you have to have a lot of time on your hands and have as your goal to try your best to screw the casino, rather than make money for yourself. Kind of fun, though, no? See how many simultaneous shoes you can force them to cut 1/6.

    Don
    i mentioned a few months ago that I did this once at the Hilton in AC when i was about 22 or 23 spreading 5-60 and I had a few hours to kill until my bus back to NYC. It was pretty comical having 3 pit bosses following me table to table having the dealer cut the shoe in half as though I was some big threat, costing themselves more money in lost hands to other players than the scraps in ev they saved on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomf23 View Post
    i mentioned a few months ago that I did this once at the Hilton in AC when i was about 22 or 23 spreading 5-60 and I had a few hours to kill until my bus back to NYC. It was pretty comical having 3 pit bosses following me table to table having the dealer cut the shoe in half as though I was some big threat, costing themselves more money in lost hands to other players than the scraps in ev they saved on me.
    Hmm..I wonder what the cost is for keeping a card counter at a table is vs the sum cost of all enforcement tools/techniques to prevent AP's at blackjack.

    Griffin did something like watching players to get a general idea what strategy they were playing so he could compute their average loss. Would be interesting if one could do so with card counters. Yet, I fell guys like Hyland and Grosjean would not appreciate being followed around by some rando with a piece of paper that tallies their action, so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    The technique of choice here, perfected to an art by Bob Fisher in A.C., where they also can't bar you, was to move in on a table as they are shuffling, causing the dealer to cut off five decks there. Stay for the one deck (or not), then move on. Repeat all day long, causing them losses in revenue at all those tables where all they do is shuffle instead of deal the cards. Of course you have to have a lot of time on your hands and have as your goal to try your best to screw the casino, rather than make money for yourself. Kind of fun, though, no? See how many simultaneous shoes you can force them to cut 1/6.

    Don
    Don, I remember back when Bob told that story, among others as well. Curious what would have happened if Bob timed his entering of a game just as the dealer was placing the cards in the shoe, after the cut card placement already took place.
    Last edited by BoSox; 01-28-2021 at 08:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Don, I remember back when Bob told that story, among others as well. Curious what would have happened if Bob timed his entering of a game just as the dealer was placing the cards in the shoe, after the cut card placement already took place.
    I saw Bob in action in Caesars AC many years ago. Let's just say he had a unique look and was very easy to spot. Even if he sat down right after cut card placement, they'd shuffle on him in short order.
    Last edited by 21forme; 01-28-2021 at 09:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    I saw Bob in action in Caesars AC many years ago. Let's just say he had a unique look and was very easy to spot. Even if he sat down right after cut card placement, they'd shuffle on him in short orsder.
    21forme, who was the guy that pulled out something like an 11 cent slot voucher out of the bottom of a latrine and dried it out and cashed it? The same guy on another trip was having a bad day at gaming, and then went up stairs and in his room peed all night in an ice bucket.
    Last edited by BoSox; 01-28-2021 at 09:42 AM.

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    Bosox - The slot voucher was Bob. He posted about it on BJ21. I never heard about the second part of your story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    Bosox - The slot voucher was Bob. He posted about it on BJ21. I never heard about the second part of your story.
    Thank you, I thought it was him, yes he also wrote about peeing in the ice bucket. He is very knowledgeable on the game of blackjack.

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