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    Verite Buster Side bet

    Trying to create a Buster Side bet in Verite with a custom count , is this possible ?
    Making A playing strategy with custom count and no side bet can be a useful option also
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    Should be possible. Set dealer has a hand over 21 and the number of cards for each entry in the pay table. Also, player two card 21 if that's part of the pay table.
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    https://wizardofodds.com/games/black...ter-blackjack/

    Trying to sim this in CVdata. I have 6 side bets set up per the pic .. 1b round sim results are close but not quite, -10.65% rather than -6.21%. All of the probabilities are just a bit under for each event. Since the dealer busting depends on having a hand still in action I changed the basic strategy to always stand, H17 is on.

    Any idea why the difference?
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    It may just be that 1B rounds isn't enough for an accurate picture. Generally the wizard says when he sims something, so I assume he did a full combinatorial analysis for the bet. Either way, I would trust his numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Natural View Post
    https://wizardofodds.com/games/black...ter-blackjack/

    Trying to sim this in CVdata. I have 6 side bets set up per the pic .. 1b round sim results are close but not quite, -10.65% rather than -6.21%. All of the probabilities are just a bit under for each event. Since the dealer busting depends on having a hand still in action I changed the basic strategy to always stand, H17 is on.

    Any idea why the difference?
    Super Natural,

    -10.65% vs. -6.21% is a rather large difference, especially for a billion-round sim.

    If you get a BJ, does the dealer finish her hand:

    1. in the actual game you're simulating?
    2. in your CVData simulation?

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    In the configuration, go to Tools-Export, export to a new file and email the file to [email protected].
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    Dog - thanks I should have clarified I meant close only when compared to the results I was getting with a heads up player using basic strategy .. which was EV -36.66%. So then I modified the BS to stand on all hands which brought it closer to expectation. I had thought about the BJ ending any chance for a dealer bust but don't think I can force the dealer to draw in CVdata. I am not sure about the actual game, this was just research so to speak.

    I have a CA from Miplet which matches Shacks probabilities. I'm a noob with CA but I don't see any consideration for the player busting/BJ and the dealer not drawing.

    Or there's something up with my sim - emailed Norm.

    Eliot had covered this bet as well - https://www.888casino.com/blog/side-...de-bet-6-decks


    Thanks guys.
    Last edited by Super Natural; 01-15-2021 at 01:24 PM.

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    On the setup page, change Simulator to Multi-Tracking and turn on Dealer must complete hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    and turn on Dealer must complete hand.
    I haven't seen that before .. where is it found? I am using v 5.0.142

    Thanks.

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    You must change Simulator to Multi-Tracking to see it.
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