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    Single Deck multi hand strat

    rules:
    single deck
    DA2
    DAS
    split to 2 total hands
    H17
    shuffle every round

    payoff off the top playing computer perfect strategy is 99.9625%, however, you can play 3 spots per round. how would this affect the payback % (assuming you can play computer perfect composition strategy based off of what cards are seen on 3 spots)? of course the % will go up, but how can we calculate how much? would this turn the game into a +ev game off the top?
    May the Variance be with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueman View Post
    of course the % will go up, but how can we calculate how much?
    Simulate it. For some insight, see BJA3, pp. 46-47.

    Quote Originally Posted by blueman View Post
    would this turn the game into a +ev game off the top?
    Without a doubt.

    Don

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    I would think that a depth charging approach might be quite useful - your third hand being the highest wager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    I would think that a depth charging approach might be quite useful - your third hand being the highest wager.
    No question about it. Minimum bet on first two hands, max bet on last.

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    No question about it. Minimum bet on first two hands, max bet on last.

    Don
    Hmm
    EV Maximizing Depth Charging.
    Increase your profits with Risk Averse Depth Charging

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    Simulate it. For some insight, see BJA3, pp. 46-47.



    Without a doubt.

    Don
    Last time I stimulated it I pulled a hamstring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beating vegas View Post
    Last time I stimulated it I pulled a hamstring.

    Bet she enjoyed it anyway.
    Last edited by 21frogman; 11-06-2020 at 12:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21frogman View Post

    Bet she enjoyed it anyway.
    https://youtu.be/f2ce-zC_n8E

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21frogman View Post

    Bet she enjoyed it anyway.
    Thank you for the compliment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    You the man..

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    don, your book mentions griffin's book Theory of Blackjack, referring to tables on page 70 and 28. thats one of the few blackjack books that i do not own. could you help me here and post the tables?

    in BJA3, you mention that the average number of cards dealt per hand is 2.7. would it be even better, if spots 1 and 2 were betting $1 and spot 3 was betting anywhere from $100-300, to have spots 1 and 2 always take as many cards as they can? for example, spot 1 is dealt 2,2 vs dealer 10. spot 1 splits and takes as many cards as possible, even if it makes him bust. now, spot 2 has A4 v 6 and just hits in hopes to hit at least twice, giving spot 3 even more information to play his hand with the max bet out. or is this giving up too much ev for spots 1 and 2, even if they are betting far less than spot 3? you could easily ramp up that average cards dealt from 2.7 to maybe even as high as 4. (i dont know that math, but obviously its much higher since you can split every 20 and play like a maniac to burn through more cards)
    May the Variance be with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueman View Post
    don, your book mentions griffin's book Theory of Blackjack, referring to tables on page 70 and 28. thats one of the few blackjack books that i do not own. could you help me here and post the tables?
    WARNING on Theory of Blackjack.
    TOB was printed in 1979, 1981, 1986 and 1988
    The numbers Don is referring are in the latest editions. If you refer to the 1979 edition, you will note that the "Strategy Gain (no insurance)" differs from those more recent. In fact, the were reviewed and slightly upgraded by Griffin. The numbers referring to "Insurance Gain" haven't changed.

    Will try to save work for Don here!
    From TOB, 1988 edition:
    Unseen cards / Insurance Gain / Strategy Gain
    10 / 0.51% / 4.22%
    15 / 0.36% / 2.68%
    20 / 0.27% / 1.81%
    25 / 0.21% / 1.23%
    30 / 0.15% / 0.83%
    35 / 0.11% / 0.53%
    40 / 0.07% / 0.31%
    45 / 0.03% / 0.15%
    Last edited by G Man; 11-08-2020 at 07:09 AM.
    G Man

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    Is this some sort of video blackjack machine? Beware that many of these video games deal each hand from a separate deck. Meaning that even though this is a single deck game, you might see the 7 of clubs in 2 different hands.

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