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    FYI. I do not ask anything for return if I share information with you here or in private. Anyone can be comfortable to contact me and I will not ask any information from you

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    You have been registered on BJ sites for 3 days, you're are spilling beans (if this is true info) like a mad man. "I give up everything I know for free to anyone, just contact me!" and you even wrote some sensitive information on free boards. I tried to warn you, as did Don Schlesinger about putting yourself in some of the pro's shoes, etc. YOU DONT F... CARE, I was even suspended on another site for telling you how a dumb moron you are, but you don't f... care about anyone.

    You are probably working for the casinos! You know why? Because no normal human being can be as dumb as you are!
    Last edited by G Man; 11-09-2020 at 09:19 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G Man View Post
    You have been registered on BJ sites for 3 days, you're are spilling beans (if this is true info) like a mad man. "I give up everything I know for free to anyone, just contact me!" and you even wrote some sensible information on free boards. I tried to warn you, as did Don Schlesinger about putting yourself in some of the pro's shoes, etc. YOU DONT F... CARE, I was even suspended on another site for telling you how a dumb moron you are, but you don't f... care about anyone.

    You are probably working for the casinos! You know why? Because no normal human being can be as dumb as you are!
    I have no intention to involve in arguments. I am actually quite busy. But I need to clarify this. I never worked, am not working and will not work for Casino. I don't know if there is a way to prove to those who already believed I am. But for the others.

    First, you can contact the editor of CBJN, Al to confirm I am PING, the reporter. I send my report use same email address I provide here.

    Second, I am posting partial screenshots of the accounting spreadsheet of one of my team in Philippine attacking a Bac side bet game last Aug to Sep. I have permission from all the members of that team to post it. Sorry, the language is in Chinese. But if you can find someone to translate it. You will know it is real.

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    I received a few opposition on my sharing the information, even insult. So I wrote this. Part of it is my response to Don. BJA's author.

    There might be different opinions on what I did and thinking to do in the future. Let me explain myself. As you can see, I learned a lot and received a lot of help from other APs. books, in person, etc. So now as I almost retired from physical casino playing. I feel I could return the favor that others gave me before and contribute my 2 cents to the community.


    I feel you should be able to understand because you also wrote books to teach others. Actually, I know a Singapore AP read and learned a lot from your book and attacked (well, also destroyed) lots of games in Asia and make millions. Will people accuse you of sharing too much?


    The second reason I like to share is I believe in teamwork. As I wrote in the OP, I did not make any money during my solo playing. I think teamwork saved me. So I would like to find people who are willing to trust others and form teams



    For those guys accuse me of sharing in open boards. Honestly, I do this partly because I have no choice. As I said in OP, I have NO contacts in US AP community at all. Open forums is the only place I can speak my voice. (I consider those paid forums the same as open forums, if ANYONE can pay a small amount to join those paid forums, what's the difference of paid and free forum)

    If you guys have some private AP circles you are willing to invite me in. I will be more than happy to share sensitive information only in those circuls

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    We have another bjanalyst here. Some people can't take a hint, unless they are hit on top of their head.

    Ping, what is it you don't understand about all the negative comments? Your posts are highly inappropriate. Take them down across all forums on which you posted. Leave up some contact info and let people contact you privately.
    Last edited by 21forme; 11-07-2020 at 10:27 AM.

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    The slot guys on Twitter are just as bad. They can't understand how to just keep their bragging mouths shut. I've had some of these good machines removed because of shit like this.
    Last edited by ShipTheCookies; 11-07-2020 at 07:39 PM.

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    I think "Ping" has received a bashing he doesn't deserve. He was just trying to offer some information on games. I don't see it much different than what CBJN has been doing for years, but everyone thinks CBJN is okay. I do think Ping's info helps the part time gambler more than the pro's. The pro's already have good contacts and know the good games. The part time player doesn't have the time to scout because he already has a full time job. I think you can make a case for both sides.

    I also don't think he gave away any great info where pros are going to be coming across country to play a 50% pen double deck game or for that matter anyone else only to be kicked out if you win any significant amount of money.

    I do think bj forums years ago discussed playing conditions much more freely than they do today. I remember discussing on BJ21 how the Hole in the Wall casino would actually deal sometimes so deep on their double deck game that they would run out of cards. You don't see that kind of discussion anymore, probably because of blow-back.

    I don't know why Ping hasn't joined forums before this. By posting over a period of time folks will become comfortable with you and you will get email contacts. I do think an argument can be made for each side.
    Last edited by Midwest Player; 11-07-2020 at 11:29 PM.

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    I also think Ping has his freedom to do this and he’s not harming that much.

    I have interacted with casino bosses and supervisors. Their main concern is against their own competitors, how to attract more ploppies and guarding against cheating whether by ploppies or their own. AP is the lowest list of their concerns.

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    Whilst I agree with some others about the dangers of sharing valuable information, Don and other writers should also be subject to exactly the same criticism, having written loads of books about how to beat blackjack. For Don and other writers to complain is really kettles calling calling the pots black. At least Ping isn't trying to make money out of this unlike the writers.

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    His motive is unclear. Why, all of a sudden, dump all this info on every BJ forum he can find when he hasn't even been on the fourms in the past?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ummagumma View Post
    Whilst I agree with some others about the dangers of sharing valuable information, Don and other writers should also be subject to exactly the same criticism, having written loads of books about how to beat blackjack. For Don and other writers to complain is really kettles calling calling the pots black. At least Ping isn't trying to make money out of this unlike the writers.
    Wow! Just can't believe how someone can have such a poor way of reasoning.

    How come you can't discern authors like Don who are spreading general knowledge of the game from players who are giving away on open boards the "specifics" of particular games?
    Can't you see the difference between explaining to the public HOW to beat a 6 decks, S17, DAS, LS cut 4.5/6 and writing on open boards that Casino Dumdumgomma offers this game with 5.25/6 penetration on Friday and Saturday swing shifts? Look for Jeff!

    How come you can't discern authors like Snyder who explain the general method to track a single pass riffle and re-stack shuffle and a "Pinglike" player who will write on open boards the exact location of Casino Pingpong that offers a 6 decks shoe with 4.5/6 penetration on a single pass R&R, splitting the cut top/bottom and no stripping?

    How come you can't discern?
    I'll tell you.
    You are in all likelihood a "living room" player. I would bet you never spend some time (should say days) going from casinos to casinos looking for advance AP opportunities.
    So, keep playing in your living room or on your kitchen table and let the pros have their business.
    G Man

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    Quote Originally Posted by G Man View Post
    Wow! Just can't believe how someone can have such a poor way of reasoning.

    How come you can't discern authors like Don who are spreading general knowledge of the game from players who are giving away on open boards the "specifics" of particular games?
    Can't you see the difference between explaining to the public HOW to beat a 6 decks, S17, DAS, LS cut 4.5/6 and writing on open boards that Casino Dumdumgomma offers this game with 5.25/6 penetration on Friday and Saturday swing shifts? Look for Jeff!

    How come you can't discern authors like Snyder who explain the general method to track a single pass riffle and re-stack shuffle and a "Pinglike" player who will write on open boards the exact location of Casino Pingpong that offers a 6 decks shoe with 4.5/6 penetration on a single pass R&R, splitting the cut top/bottom and no stripping?

    How come you can't discern?
    I'll tell you.
    You are in all likelihood a "living room" player. I would bet you never spend some time (should say days) going from casinos to casinos looking for advance AP opportunities.
    So, keep playing in your living room or on your kitchen table and let the pros have their business.
    Very funny. I've been an AP for over 40 years, so not quite the 'livingroom player' that you think. And I've played all over the world. So your comments were quite funny and totally misguided.
    And don't make assumptions about what I can and can't 'discern'. You should read my post a little more carefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ummagumma View Post
    Very funny. I've been an AP for over 40 years, so not quite the 'livingroom player' that you think. And I've played all over the world. So your comments were quite funny and totally misguided.
    And don't make assumptions about what I can and can't 'discern'. You should read my post a little more carefully.
    I'm glad you played all over even though it could mean very little, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt and then we can have a real conversation. Now tell us what makes you unable to separate the general issues from the specific ones? Tell us frankly what makes you believe Don S. and all other authors have in common with Ping?

    PS. Did you read this thread from post #1 ?
    Last edited by G Man; 11-08-2020 at 07:45 AM.
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