Odds of RC or TC

[Freightman]

Someone mentioned 1.5 percent of TC 6 with 1.5 deck cut off but does it matter with lots of deck remaining? Like it was 8 D with two decks played and yet such high TC and RC

A few comments.
1. RC 37 with 2 decks played of 8 is highly suspect. Was this shoe observed at beginning of shift? Was this shoe hand shuffled or through an ASM at table? The answer to those 2 comments, balance of that shoe and shoes thereafter would tell a story.

2. Some years back, (Heavy red chip days) I was half shoed and shoe ended exactly at 3 of 6 decks played. Shoe ended at RC-23 with (Definitely no cheating). Shuffle was simple and trackable. I got the cut card and managed to cut a huge swath of low cards out of play. Made $500 or so on that shoe.

3. Almost 2 years ago, I had a shoe of RC 18 after 1 deck played (no house cheating). Everything fell into place, and as I like to say - The moon was in the seventh hour and Jupiter aligned with Mars. It was the ride of my life. My RC count of 18 was half of yours at 37. Did you finish your shoe and if so, what was the count.

4. You have mentioned possible cheating before. I have had a coupLe of suspect situations. One was a possible mechanic with a weird hand action. It was 2000 miles from home with lots of available tables. I didn’t know for sure, didn’t need to know for sure and simply went to another table. Another situation, closer to home is suspect. When I go back, it will be with a coordinated back up plan. To quote a line from the first Dirty Harry movie - I gots to know.

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[ZeeBabar]

“1. RC 37 with 2 decks played of 8 is highly suspect. Was this shoe observed at beginning of shift? Was this shoe hand shuffled or through an ASM at table? The answer to those 2 comments, balance of that shoe and shoes thereafter would tell a story.”

Nah, casinos don’t cheat. Why would they risk getting in trouble with regulators, just don’t happen, no more.

[Freightman]

“1. RC 37 with 2 decks played of 8 is highly suspect. Was this shoe observed at beginning of shift? Was this shoe hand shuffled or through an ASM at table? The answer to those 2 comments, balance of that shoe and shoes thereafter would tell a story.”

Nah, casinos don’t cheat. Why would they risk getting in trouble with regulators, just don’t happen, no more.

Zee
This guy is from somewhere in Asia if I’m not mistaken.

[Iwantmoney]

Someone mentioned 1.5 percent of TC 6 with 1.5 deck cut off but does it matter with lots of deck remaining? Like it was 8 D with two decks played and yet such high TC and RC

After this RC 37 at 2D the RC remain or decreased to 35 while the game was played to the cut off at 5D into the shoe, meaning TC increased . What do you make of this?

[21forme]

After this RC 37 at 2D the RC remain or decreased to 35 while the game was played to the cut off at 5D into the shoe, meaning TC increased . What do you make of this?

Possible that high cards were removed from the deck. You'd need to count down multiple shoes to confirm.

[BJGenius007]

A few comments.
1. RC 37 with 2 decks played of 8 is highly suspect. Was this shoe observed at beginning of shift? Was this shoe hand shuffled or through an ASM at table? The answer to those 2 comments, balance of that shoe and shoes thereafter would tell a story.

OP said it is Silver Fox count on 8D. Because two decks were played, he has seen 104 cards.

The tag of Silver Fox are +1 (2-7), 0 (8) and -1 (9-A).

If RC is +37, that means he has seen 67 small cards (2 -7), 30 large cards (9, T, A) and 7 neutral cards (8). It happens rarely, but it could still happen.

[Freightman]

OP said it is Silver Fox count on 8D. Because two decks were played, he has seen 104 cards.

The tag of Silver Fox are +1 (2-7), 0 (8) and -1 (9-A).

If RC is +37, that means he has seen 67 small cards (2 -7), 30 large cards (9, T, A) and 7 neutral cards (8). It happens rarely, but it could still happen.

If it’s a random shuffle, hand or ASM, then you can expect a pretty fair ride to the finish. Now, if RC at 6.5/8 is still in and around RC 37, then I would theorize that hand shuffle was away from the table and out of sight.

This would be further theorized as a high limit table. To do so at a low limit table with players usually of limited ability, simply isn’t logical.

[Iwantmoney]

This is sihanoukville will little to none oversight where cheating occurs rampantly.

Now if RC was maintained at 35 with for the next 3D to cut card it means not cheating, since next 3D are equal Highs and lows. This was hand shuffled 1 shoe changed every round.

[Freightman]

This is sihanoukville will little to none oversight where cheating occurs rampantly.

Now if RC was maintained at 35 with for the next 3D to cut card it means not cheating, since next 3D are equal Highs and lows. This was hand shuffled 1 shoe changed every round.

The critical 2 questions
1. Were the cards washed and observed by you.
2. Were the shoes shuffled at the table, or away from the table outside of your table view.

[BJGenius007]

If it’s a random shuffle, hand or ASM, then you can expect a pretty fair ride to the finish. Now, if RC at 6.5/8

OP specially said 6 decks left on 8D shoe, not 6.5 decks. Someone else used data on 4.5/6 to estimate the frequency this occurs which has very similar theoretical probability as 6/8.

[ShipTheCookies]

The fact remains, these oddities DO happen.

If you conspiracy theorists had the below five cards dealt immediately in a SD game, we'd never hear the "casinos cheat" nonsense never end.

[Iwantmoney]

The critical 2 questions
1. Were the cards washed and observed by you.
2. Were the shoes shuffled at the table, or away from the table outside of your table view.

Away from view cards changed per round.

And to those who said I can counter by observing multiple shoes it is very possible they can alternate high shoes.

That’s why the thread was about specific probability of such shoes occurring

[Freightman]

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Away from view cards changed per round.

And to those who said I can counter by observing multiple shoes it is very possible they can alternate high shoes.

Be a good idea to find another place to play.