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    What are the most common blackjack side bets?

    I am looking for the most common blackjack side bets for a real-time VBA spreadsheet I am creating. So far, I have 6 side bets on the spreadsheet:

    Insurance
    Lucky Ladies
    Pair Square (Bet the Set)
    Royal Match
    Royal 20's
    Twenty One Plus Three (in all its versions)

    What else would you add to this list?

    TIA
    Last edited by Eliot; 10-16-2020 at 05:16 PM.
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    In my part of the world Perfect Pairs is very common.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davethebuilder View Post
    In my part of the world Perfect Pairs is very common.
    No truer words have been spoken!

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    Okay -- got it into the sheet. Here it is:

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    Last edited by Eliot; 10-17-2020 at 07:35 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davethebuilder View Post
    In my part of the world Perfect Pairs is very common.
    The odd place here has Perfect Pairs. I. told the dealer that my idea of Perfect Pairs was different than theirs. In fact one lady pointed to her own chest commenting on her Perfect Pair.

    Sometimes, as does everybody, I get a blackjack in a shitty count. Occasionally, the crappy situation calls for the side bet, which I will then play. When I do so, rather than betting for the dealer, I will place 2 chips on the side bet. If 5he dealer is female, and even semi cute (with a definite good sense of humour), I’ll ask if they prefer the top or the bottom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliot View Post
    Okay -- got it into the sheet. Here it is:

    https://researchers.one/doc/5f8a388f203fb700047083a0
    also
    Kings Bounty, basically the same as Lucky Ladies
    Lucky Lucky, about 2.6% house edge. One place has changed suited 21 payout from 15-1 to 10-1. Quick back of the envelope Calc changes house edge to about 4.5%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    also
    Kings Bounty, basically the same as Lucky Ladies
    Lucky Lucky, about 2.6% house edge. One place has changed suited 21 payout from 15-1 to 10-1. Quick back of the envelope Calc changes house edge to about 4.5%.
    Thanks -- I was wondering about those two bets. I started to add them but then decided to ask before doing the work. I'll include those in the next version I release.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliot View Post
    Thanks -- I was wondering about those two bets. I started to add them but then decided to ask before doing the work. I'll include those in the next version I release.
    It’s helpful to know the house edge per side bet based on number of decks. It’s more helpful to know the house edge per card removed, however that would be impractical.

    Now, if analysis can show the house edge per True Count (on a huge sim), that would be immensely helpful as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    It’s helpful to know the house edge per side bet based on number of decks. It’s more helpful to know the house edge per card removed, however that would be impractical.
    That's exactly what the code does. You can customize the deck by removing any cards you want and get the house edge. In particular, you can get EORs to generate counting systems.

    It allows for real-time updating of the edge of each side bet as the shoe is played out. Hence, it is also potentially useful for online casino play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliot View Post
    That's exactly what the code does. You can customize the deck by removing any cards you want and get the house edge. In particular, you can get EORs to generate counting systems.

    It allows for real-time updating of the edge of each side bet as the shoe is played out. Hence, it is also potentially useful for online casino play.

    Modified house edge per card removed is IMPRESSIVE. Now, if you happen to follow some my (what some perceive as bullshit) posts on FBM ASC Advanced, it then sounds like it would be a piece of cake to reverse the process and construct your own remaining 26 or 52 cards remaining. If so, using lucky ladies, which almost everyone understands, you can then construct very weak to intermediate to strong true 8 counts.

    For example, using hi lo, you can construct any number of true 8 and over counts with 52 cards remaining. Your program, if understand correctly, will calculate different house edges based on the card composition of that particular true count.

    My phrasing for this is QTC (Quality of True Count). Simply stated, 6 deck, true count of 8, 52 cards remaining, can have varying numbers of intermediate cards, which affects the number of hi and lo cards respectively. You can have a good true 8, or a shitty true 8. I won’t bother with additional theories, but it is interesting stuff.

    Some true 8s migh5 be poor for lucky ladies as an example
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