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    Heads Up - Covid Era

    Im going to post this incognito, though most regulars will recognize the writing style. Reason will become obvious.

    I’ve now played 4 sessions at 3 stores, give or take about 10 hours of play. I was happy with Covid procedures at 2 of the 3 stores (will give up that location for now), and still plan on scouting out other local locations (all from which I’ve been previously booted)

    I like heads up play, and usually got a lot of it. These past 10 hours or so, I’ve only had a very few minutes of heads up play. Has anyone experienced similar type limitations.

    I was recognized at 2 of the 3 stores, one of them was a surprise. There have been no countermeasures. The other - my favourite - I’ve played 2 sessions, recognizing only 1 critter and a couple of dealers. Haven’t been made as yet.

    Interestingly enough, masks have helped. Also, I’ve worn glasses full time all of my life, being near sighted with severe astigmatism. In the middle of early Covid, medical procedures were allowed to go forward. I had cataract surgery on both eyes a few months ago. I am now a bit farsighted with modest astigmatism. For the first time in my life, I am now legal to drive without corrective lenses (though I do see slightly better with glasses). This means I no longer need glasses at the table. Masks fog up my glasses. No glasses with mask makes for an interesting appearance changer. A couple of other items assist in the appearance category.

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    Face mask is a must for me. Don't care what others say or do.

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    I don't know if a mask helps or not as to disguising identity. They still ask for a players card in Vegas if you play any level whatsoever. I mean if you could play red or light green at a place like Wynn, Bellagio or Caesars and "be under the radar", that would be great and work.............but the table minimums have been raised so much, not much of this play have I experienced post-Covid. I do like the mask where I can mutter the count or cuss to myself without anyone knowing.............LOL

    Locally, it's crap. I agree with you on playing heads up and less crowded conditions. BUT to enter, they here now require a photo shot, mask lowered, with your ID and usually a temp check to enter. They claim for contact trace purposes but that's BS..............because how are you going to know who "passed" the virus at any particular time in a casino? You are only going to have a group of people that you might or might not associate with an outbreak. I truly believe it's just to make sure they have pics to go along with ID's. It's getting harder and harder and harder to play incognito. At least my opinion and YMMV.
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    If masks fog your glasses, you probably don't have a tight seal at the top of the mask.
    "Croyez ceux qui cherchent la vérité, doutez de ceux qui la trouvent." --André Gide

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    Masks are helping now, I know one friend, he devoted a whole work on how facial expressions, gestures, emotions, and involuntary movements affect. Naturally, the clue in the game is not only gestures and facial expressions, but also such criteria as the size of the bet, behavior at the table, handling cards and chips, and even the player's breath and posture. I will give a few examples that I personally borrowed from his work.
    1. Handling cards
    With a successful combination, the player lays out the cards meticulously and accurately, sorting and shuffling. If the cards are bad, then he throws them on the table and takes cards in his hands only when necessary.
    2. Breathing
    Breathing is also a meaningful clue. The breathing rhythm is almost always not played out. This sign is convenient to use when you are sitting close to the player. Even breathing and any attempts to suppress deep breaths are signs of a weak hand. Holding the breath indicates that the person likes what he sees: the card came good. In addition, at the moment when a person sees a successful combination, he unconsciously swallows saliva, which also gives out excitement.
    3.A quick look at the chips
    The most valuable of the unconscious signs is a quick glance at your chips, and then to the side or to the board. Such actions indicate a desire to place a bet. A similar tell is a look at the opponent's pieces.
    4.Excessive courtesy
    If having made a bet, the opponent begins to communicate in a friendly manner, most likely he is bluffing.
    And, conversely, when a sociable opponent abruptly stops talking, he wants the bet to be called.
    A beautiful and meaningful tell sign is a grin. In situations where, while remaining serious, a person suddenly explodes with laughter, in his arms - a bomb! A natural laugh is a sign of a good hand, but a feigned one is a sign of a bluff or a weak hand.
    5.Card protection
    Noticing that the opponent takes a quick glance at the cards and covers them with his hand, be sure that he has strong cards in his hands, which the player subconsciously tries to protect from any encroachments.
    6.Show cards to friends
    There are also such things, especially among inexperienced players. This is an absolutely reliable strong hand call. Firstly, this is how a newbie shows others that he is a good player, and secondly, a beginner player would be afraid to show a bluff in case he was given out.
    7.Fast rate
    Again, the action of beginners, which probably speaks of a successful combination. An instant bet is not a common feature of experienced players, whatever the cards.
    8. A glass and a cigarette
    After a bluff bet, the player will probably reach for a glass. With regard to smoking, here the strength of the hand can also be determined by the strength of the puffs. The puff is deep - the hand is strong. Your opponent doesn't care if you call or not. Short puffs are a common sign of bluffing.
    9.Piercing gaze
    It is he, no matter how strange it sounds, should be regarded as the weakness of the player. A piercing gaze is not dangerous.
    10.Looking at maps for a long time
    Indicates a weak hand. If, after a long stare, the player still bets, this is most likely a bluff. A very reliable tell - a second look at your cards after a bet has been made, indicating that the opponent is bluffing.
    There are a lot of examples and techniques, this is only a part, you can of course observe and take into account all of them, or just put a bucket on your head with holes cut out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    If masks fog your glasses, you probably don't have a tight seal at the top of the mask.
    I wear glasses, too. I don't care that face mask fog my glasses I am still wearing them and keep social distancing. Also, I don't have the "stay home" way of thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJGolf View Post
    I don't know if a mask helps or not as to disguising identity. They still ask for a players card in Vegas if you play any level whatsoever. I mean if you could play red or light green at a place like Wynn, Bellagio or Caesars and "be under the radar", that would be great and work.............but the table minimums have been raised so much, not much of this play have I experienced post-Covid. I do like the mask where I can mutter the count or cuss to myself without anyone knowing.............LOL

    Locally, it's crap. I agree with you on playing heads up and less crowded conditions. BUT to enter, they here now require a photo shot, mask lowered, with your ID and usually a temp check to enter. They claim for contact trace purposes but that's BS..............because how are you going to know who "passed" the virus at any particular time in a casino? You are only going to have a group of people that you might or might not associate with an outbreak. I truly believe it's just to make sure they have pics to go along with ID's. It's getting harder and harder and harder to play incognito. At least my opinion and YMMV.
    I agree that ID checks are not for contact tracing. Does anyone have an idea how many Vegas casinos engage in this sham? Has anyone started a list of those who check and those who don't?

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    Glasses are really difficult to stop fogging when wearing a mask. The humidity and temperature of the breath makes it extremely difficult for anti-fog solutions or coatings to work very well on eyeglass lenses made of plastic.
    Last edited by CEO1; 10-26-2020 at 01:18 AM.

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    A proper mask should have a metal strip over the bridge of the nose. Mold it to the bridge and it should prevent fogging.
    "Croyez ceux qui cherchent la vérité, doutez de ceux qui la trouvent." --André Gide

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    A proper mask should have a metal strip over the bridge of the nose.
    There are proper masks and masks that you can find in stores or online. Tried to find any Clorox disinfecting wipes in the last few months?

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