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    CVData/ST

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    Picked up the CVData/ST module (actually got em all) and it has been a great tool for quantifying where for the past many years i have been guestimating and using qualitative thumbrules like expect EV and variance to do this for a track (vs a count) game. great tool and have only scratched the surface with it.

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    A question regarding pricing:
    CVData costs 180 USD, CVData/ST costs 250 USD, but what does "is free to users of CVData/HC" mean (see below).
    If I have neither CVData nor CVData/ST, do I have to pay 180 + 250 USD = 430 USD? Or does CVData/ST comprise CVData?

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    CVData/ST costs $250 and requires CVData. I expect this to be a low volume product.
    CVData/ST is free to users of CVData/HC.

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    CVData/HC no longer exists as I included many of the functions, like hole-carding and next-carding, partial hole-carding, rebates, etc., into CVData at no extra cost. CVData/ST does not include CVData. It is an add-in for shuffle tracking. It is expensive because it is ridiculous complex and difficult to maintain. But, it is heavily discounted when purchasing everything. If someone has all the other products, they can also ask fir a discount. I don' really want to sell it to folks that don't already have an understanding of ST and NRS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    CVData/HC no longer exists as I included many of the functions, like hole-carding and next-carding, partial hole-carding, rebates, etc., into CVData at no extra cost. CVData/ST does not include CVData. It is an add-in for shuffle tracking. It is expensive because it is ridiculous complex and difficult to maintain. But, it is heavily discounted when purchasing everything. If someone has all the other products, they can also ask fir a discount. I don' really want to sell it to folks that don't already have an understanding of ST and NRS.
    Does CVData/ST also support ace sequencing, or only zone tracking of slugs w.r.t. to counting?

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    No ace sequencing. Problem there is how do you define exactly what you are doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    No ace sequencing. Problem there is how do you define exactly what you are doing.
    Yes, that's also a problem when devising strategys for this :-)
    There are lots of different techniques and uncertainties in this field, difficult to formally describe.

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    norm hi.what program must i get from qfit to canculate loss rebate for various games??

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    CVData does rebates.
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