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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    its good that you’re dedicating yourself to some type of regimen. I see no mention of basuc strategy deviation, I.e. index play.

    get yourself a copy of Wong’s professional blavpckjack. Since you’re following BJA lessons you’re more than likely playing hi lo. The hi lo indexes in professional blackjack start at about 250 to so.
    Thanks, my regiment is:

    In order, master each step before moving on:
    1) Basic Strategy (1 week)
    2) Card Counting (Hi Lo) (3 weeks)

    Test back counting in casino

    3) Bet spread (modeled using CVCX) (completed)
    4) Deviations (I-18) (1-2 weeks)

    Play low stakes

    Primarily using software to increase reps/verify game/expedite the process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texascc View Post
    I too am learning and taking a very regimented approach to practice and counting before stepping inside a casino again. I have many questions and ideas and would like to introduce myself to Forum but do not want to high jack this thread. What is the best place to make an introduction? Thank you.
    Figure you want to introduce to the forum and not specifically me, but still glad to connect and chat about our processes. PM me if interested.

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    3) Bet spread (modeled using CVCX) (completed)
    4) Deviations (I-18) (1-2 weeks)

    Play low stakes
    low spread to start, even though it wouldn’t be a money maker. Once you’re used to the pace and distractions of the casino, start spreading. Also, use that time to refine your comportment at the table. Look natural, look like a ploppy.

    ogle at the waitress while chatting it up with the critter, simultaneously praying for mercy from the card gods - just a few examples of long term survival skills.

    Be smart, look stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Be smart, look stupid.
    Wise words. I'm quickly realizing that this likely isn't for me as a long-term pro. More as a hobbyist that can put in 100-200 hours per year and enjoy the comps along the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuecesWild22 View Post
    Wise words. I'm quickly realizing that this likely isn't for me as a long-term pro. More as a hobbyist that can put in 100-200 hours per year and enjoy the comps along the way.
    Finally, some sense. To be honest, I never went thru all those steps, all that training. First,mplayed without knowing anything, won maybe $50. Got interested in the game. Looked up resources (No Internet then), read a couple of books (Early Patterson, Wong), went back and started playing after practicing counting for about a week. Up and down at low stakes but not losing, read a couple of more books (Revere, Uston), cut up flash cards, Revere’s colorful charts and carried them, practicing a bit, just counting. Those books had little Or none on optimal betting, BR management. In those days, my states (where I was living) had no casinos and had to go to Vegas, Reno/Tahoe or AC. Not often. Then came the new century, the internet, joined BJ21, read post of the month, archives, posted every error, mistake (cause of not reading or practicing seriously), got skewered by forum members (BJ21 did not operate like this forum) and learned I could handle the humiliation, kept going back on that forum and then this one as that one got terminally ill. Learned a lot on the forum but to do that I had to post every thing, every mistake, act of stupidity, both playing BJ and sex.

    To make it short, start playing while learning, ask questions even if they have been asked by others before, adm it screw ups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuecesWild22 View Post
    Wise words. I'm quickly realizing that this likely isn't for me as a long-term pro. More as a hobbyist that can put in 100-200 hours per year and enjoy the comps along the way.
    why would some douchebag neg this post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Finally, some sense. To be honest, I never went thru all those steps, all that training.
    Quarantined and WFH provides the time to do this at home, especially with the software allowing me to rip through hands. Essentially aiming to not reinforce bad habits if jump to the casino too quickly. Still, from everything I read (forums/books) they suggest 100+ hours of practice before jumping into the real deal. Realistically, my schedule has me putting in approx. 50 hours. So well below the "average" if all goes according to plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    why would some douchebag neg this post.
    Freighter, someone on here obviously doesn't like you (or your posts) but more likely it's you. He is hiding behind anonymity. I've noticed it on some of your posts that shouldn't cause any concern at all. Norm said if it continued, he would take care of it. But I know you have a semi thick skin. It's not like you are getting a huge amount of neg likes. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by DuecesWild22 View Post
    Quarantined and WFH provides the time to do this at home, especially with the software allowing me to rip through hands. Essentially aiming to not reinforce bad habits if jump to the casino too quickly. Still, from everything I read (forums/books) they suggest 100+ hours of practice before jumping into the real deal. Realistically, my schedule has me putting in approx. 50 hours. So well below the "average" if all goes according to plan.
    Just be ready to go back and practice more. Anyone who is a beginner and thinks they have it "all down" practicing at home, is in for a rude awakening trying to do it in a true casino environment. There are so many distractions, issues, things that will affect your play. But to be honest, no amount of practice will EVER get you ready for the casino experience. I would reiterate what was said above and play for lower stakes than CVCX states for your bankroll for your first initial experiences JUST to get your feet wet and find out what it takes to keep your HEAD in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJGolf View Post
    Freighter, someone on here obviously doesn't like you (or your posts) but more likely it's you. He is hiding behind anonymity. I've noticed it on some of your posts that shouldn't cause any concern at all. Norm said if it continued, he would take care of it. But I know you have a semi thick skin. It's not like you are getting a huge amount of neg likes. LOL
    As I alluded to Norm, there was Prick A and Prick B, whom I referred to Mini Prick B. It would have been more appropriate to have referred to him as Mini Prick A, as in the funny farce film, Goldmember. (Mini me)

    The patterns were clear - Prick A was negging everything, and mini Prick A at about a 50% or so rate of Prick A. It had been going on for some time before I started subtly bitching about it. Interestingly enough, when Norm advised that he had removed all of Prick A’s ratings, including 175 negative posts, the positive side of the equation didn’t budge 1 millimetre. In other words, 0 positive and 175 negative - not exactly random response.

    The fact that Norm finally acted was something at least. Perhaps he should have looked further. I’m an expert at these types of spatial relationships, and I have won many many battles in my regular business activities, a singular entity against multi faceted hordes of departments and divisions which make up my corporate opponents - often finding that theIr left hand doesn’t know what right hand is doing. Patience and experience being the key - this was child’s play.

    I admit that I set this up - generating multitudes of posts that would attract the large number of negs. The Douchebags in question increased their negs at rate commensurate with my inviting posts. BJAnalyst actually gave me the opening that I wanted (not realizing it, and I properly thanked him) and I asked another forum member to post a specific type post which gave me the opportunity to begin my covert campaign, which I considered as entertainment. You might recall the multitude of posts referring to FBM ASC Basic and Advanced with dual ramp system. By the way, there’s actually something to that, and there were no takers on my open invitation to determine the key ingredient of what an AP must be prepared to understand, a concept being contrary to counter logic.

    Norm indicated that outing the Douchebags in question was against the rules, however, on a prior occasion, a forum member was named after negging me about 50 times, so I don’t see what the big deal is. I would guarantee a verbal evisceration of the individuals in question - further, the first individual named a couple of years back, would be dumber than hell to repeat his actions. Perhaps they would consider outing themselves.

    Now, I make reference to the Four Douchebags of the Apocalypse. I’m not suggesting that Countingusfun is a member of said group, however, I note that he is suspended or banned indefinitely - either as a last straw for his activities by Norm, but noted immediately by me of his deleted response post after I quoted him some Shakespeare. Maybe he is the main culprit, maybe not. If not, then Norm should confirm.

    MJGolf - thanks for asking the question. I was hoping someone would. Oh, and yes, I do have a thick skin.

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