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    Quote Originally Posted by bjanalyst View Post
    I know virtually nothing on the internal working of casino surveillance. When I googled "how do casinos catch counters" I did not find any articles about sophisticated software to evaluate if a counter is actually playing with an edge. Without sophisticated software then the casinos would most likely uses the HL.

    If you have a link to any articles explaining this software that casinos use to evaluate counters, then please post the link in this thread.

    Also with the small sample size of a couple of shoes, even with sophisticated software, how could the casinos come to a definite conclusion on the strength of your play?

    I would think they most look at bet spread and maybe some of the I18 to see if you are playing perfect HL blackjack. That is what I think and that is how my friend was caught a few days ago who plays the HL.

    Thanks.
    The typical Vegas shit hole wouldn’t care. The subtleties of the FBM ASC Advanced with dual ramp system would almost be lost on these Neanderthals - even raising bets as counts go down would be viewed as a threat. That’s because these guys are dumber than a bag of hammers.

    Elsewhere, pay heed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    these guys are dumber than a bag of hammers.
    Why are you insulting hammers? Are you an anti-hammite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    +1000! These guys really believe that casinos would like to ban every player that counts....and they are supposed to be pros. Personally, I believe that IF all how to count in Blackjack books, forums, you-tube and more were banned, the casinos would lobby to remove the ban.
    Points of clarification:

    1) I am not a pro and never claimed to be.

    2) I've never said "...casinos would like to ban every player that counts..." and really never developed or expressed an opinion on that issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wave View Post
    Points of clarification:

    1) I am not a pro and never claimed to be.

    2) I've never said "...casinos would like to ban every player that counts..." and really never developed or expressed an opinion on that issue.
    It is best to take measures so that the casino does not even suspect you as a counter which is what I do.

    I play $15 table minimum, six decks, five decks dealt, S17, DAS, LS, Lucky Ladies and Super 4.

    When I cash in, I cash in for $500 and I ask for $400 in green and $100 in red. When I get a chance, I surreptitiously pocket $100 of the green chips. When I win hands that are paid off in green, I sometimes put the green chip winnings in my pocket as well. So, my stack of chips goes down quickly and then I buy in again for another $500 cash making it look like I have been losing.

    If there is a dealer change, I then quickly pocket all but $100 of my chips as the new dealer has no idea what I bought in for. Then after losing a few hands I buy in for still more chips for cash from the new dealer.

    Continually buying in for more chips gives the casino less of reason to track me since they see that I lose all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjanalyst View Post
    It is best to take measures so that the casino does not even suspect you as a counter which is what I do.

    I play $15 table minimum, six decks, five decks dealt, S17, DAS, LS, Lucky Ladies and Super 4.

    When I cash in, I cash in for $500 and I ask for $400 in green and $100 in red. When I get a chance, I surreptitiously pocket $100 of the green chips. When I win hands that are paid off in green, I sometimes put the green chip winnings in my pocket as well. So, my stack of chips goes down quickly and then I buy in again for another $500 cash making it look like I have been losing.

    If there is a dealer change, I then quickly pocket all but $100 of my chips as the new dealer has no idea what I bought in for. Then after losing a few hands I buy in for still more chips for cash from the new dealer.

    Continually buying in for more chips gives the casino less of reason to track me since they see that I lose all the time.
    I'll keep that in mind when/if I start playng again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wave View Post
    I'll keep that in mind when/if I start playng again.
    Whatever you guys decide to with regards to ratholing is fine, but don’t cash out for more than you colour (yankee spelling) up for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Whatever you guys decide to with regards to ratholing is fine, but don’t cash out for more than you colour (yankee spelling) up for.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    but don’t cash out for more than you[r] colour (yankee spelling)
    Why do you continually think that it's Americans who spell these words with an extra u? It's the British/Canadian spelling that makes it "colour." Really weird. You must know how you've been spelling the word your whole life, no?

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    Why do you continually think that it's Americans who spell these words with an extra u? It's the British/Canadian spelling that makes it "colour." Really weird. You must know how you've been spelling the word your whole life, no?

    Don
    Since he's Canadian, shouldn't you have ended your post with "eh" instead of "no"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    Why do you continually think that it's Americans who spell these words with an extra u? It's the British/Canadian spelling that makes it "colour." Really weird. You must know how you've been spelling the word your whole life, no?

    Don
    I would have posted Don's quote with the pic of the "Good Fellas" laughing, but I don't want to get suspended again...LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShipTheCookies View Post
    Since he's Canadian, shouldn't you have ended your post with "eh" instead of "no"?
    Tabernac
    I might be from Quebec

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Tabernac
    I might be from Quebec
    I stayed there once. No wait, that was the Frontenac

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