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    Ideal bankroll?

    I know bankroll size is a personal decision, however I'm questioning if I am making a smart decision.

    In a few weeks, I will have the option of increasing my bankroll significantly. I'm getting money from an inheritance, and it's a substantial amount. Would it be crazy to take, maybe a quarter of it, to add to my bankroll? I would be going from 15k to 50k. I want access to the better games and a bigger bankroll gives me more options. I am appreciative of any advice that is constructive.

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    Be very careful until you know you can beat the game. That's still not a large bankroll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooking with cards View Post
    I know bankroll size is a personal decision, however I'm questioning if I am making a smart decision.

    In a few weeks, I will have the option of increasing my bankroll significantly. I'm getting money from an inheritance, and it's a substantial amount. Would it be crazy to take, maybe a quarter of it, to add to my bankroll? I would be going from 15k to 50k. I want access to the better games and a bigger bankroll gives me more options. I am appreciative of any advice that is constructive.
    Understand that the better games almost always come with better surveillance. Do you have the confidence to play at the higher level? It's not always just about the bankroll or the money. You have to be emotionally ready to play the higher-limit games. Not saying you aren't; just asking.

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Be very careful until you know you can beat the game. That's still not a large bankroll.
    Ditto

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    That's a damn good point, that I probably avoided thinking about, in the excitement of being able to to increase it so much, so fast. I guess it's time to think seriously, about whether I am really ready yet? I know I'm ready to deal with swings, and losing. I feel the need to point out, it's not because it's an inheritance, I worked hard to put together my 15k bankroll, and I was okay dealing with losing from that. Not that it didn't suck to lose, I just trusted the math!
    I'm not saying that to Don or Norm, I'm noticing on other sites, people think crazy things! I don't let the thought of a back off affect how I play, but I've never played black chips before either! You have definitely given me something to think about!

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    Get ready to face CTR reports! Anytime you buy more than 10k in chips either at one session or in more than one session in the same casino, you need to show your id. And here is the dilemma, if you are losing you are welcome to continue losing. However, as soon as you start getting out of the hole, you will have a tap on your shoulder asking you to get the hell out of the property and since they had your picture and ID, you need to find another casino to repeat another adventure that might be pleasant or painful depending on your skill and luck. My advice: gambling should be taken as a hobby and using money you can afford to lose. Also, if you lose close to 9k, get out and don't show your Id to anyone no matter the cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    Do you have the confidence to play at the higher level? It's not always just about the bankroll or the money. You have to be emotionally ready to play the higher-limit games. Not saying you aren't; just asking.
    Don
    I'd second this. I'd urge you to really examine your emotions. You may feel you've become accustomed to the variance at the level you're currently at, but when you jump up a level the emotions can really play tricks with your head. You don't necessarily have to "jump" in with both feet, either, just because you feel you now have a bankroll size that can sustain it -- maybe enlarge your spreads for a while at your current level, with the occasional "treat" of playing higher levels.

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    People are making a huge deal. Your $50k bankroll is insufficient to play Black chip tables.

    If you had a $15k bankroll, you have probably been playing red chip tables. Move up to $25 minimum tables and try it out. You will have better players at those tables than the ploppies that play red chip tables and side bets.

    I have a $75k bankroll but I did not care for the stress that comes with playing $50 or $100 minimum tables. I had no wish to deal with the occasional $5k+ losses that come in a single session, the more obvious heat that I felt at those tables, often finding myself alone at not just the table but in the entire HL rooms and of being conscious of being watched.

    It’s a different game at those levels. I would suggest you try $25 minimum games and $300 max bets for a year or so.

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    Unlike the advice of those that try to take your situation and apply it to themselves and give you guidance, I would suggest other considerations.

    The fact that you asked the question is both good and informative. It likely means you do not yet have a mastery of game values, N0, RoR, backoffs, trespassing and the many other intricacies of higher stakes blackjack. Before taking the new found money and putting at risk that is much higher than you realize, consider expanding your study of the game and continue playing 15,000+ hands at the limits you are now comfortable with, keep good records and analyze your results and then determine how you feel about it.

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    I agree with Stealth. Once casinos reopen, get comfortable playing at the red chip level UNRATED. Then as your comfort level and mastery of the game improves, you'll be able to increase your bet level more quickly than those who start on a shoestring budget.

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    Depends on whether you're in a Growth Mode for your Bankroll or an Income Producing Mode for your Bankroll and what games you're playing. If you're gonna play machines 7 figure bankrolls are what you'll need. For 21 it's really tough to put much more than $300,000 to work for you considering table limits and heat. $50,000 can turn into $25,000 very quickly with a month of bad sessions.

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    I'm definitely more interested in blackjack, than I am in machines, although if I can get an edge in vp, I will take it. There are a few full pay jacks or better I've played, but I would rather play poker with people! It seems like when I'm ready to go up in stakes, maybe I should consider taking all the cash out for bankroll, which would give me almost 150k? I'm studying and practicing for about 4 hrs a day, I have gotten down to 25 seconds to count down a deck, I've got index cards with the top 25 deviations for Hi-Lo, and I have stacks of cards wrapped in elastics, in every room in my house, so I can practice deck estimation. I'm trying to decide if I should learn a new count system, or at least start doing an ace side count? Thoughts and Suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooking with cards View Post
    I'm trying to decide if I should learn a new count system, or at least start doing an ace side count? Thoughts and Suggestions?
    No and no!!

    Don

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