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    ZeeBabar, if you been following the board for years, many players have reported that many casinos set up a few double deck games as a trap mainly for newer inexperienced counters "cooking with cards I am not talking about you". More experienced counters will not take the bait.

    Zee another consideration is level of play. Many members max bet is at least 10x your max bet and playing the shoe game has a little less scrutiny depending on the house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    ZeeBabar, if you been following the board for years, many players have reported that many casinos set up a few double deck games as a trap mainly for newer inexperienced counters "cooking with cards I am not talking about you". More experienced counters will not take the bait.

    Zee another consideration is level of play. Many members max bet is at least 10x your max bet and playing the shoe game has a little less scrutiny depending on the house.
    In my younger years while in Vegas, I invested about 10 minutes at the single deck 6-5 table with a further 10 minutes low low spread at double deck before sauntering over to the six deck table Where I let my hair down just a tad.

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    [QUOTE=BoSox;287731]ZeeBabar, if you been following the board for years, many players have reported that many casinos set up a few double deck games as a trap mainly for newer inexperienced counters "cooking with cards I am not talking about you". More experienced counters will not take the bait.

    Lol!! That really was funny! I just wanted to make sure you know I never said I was you....I saw KJ's question, and I don't know where that came from, but it sure as hell wasn't me! I'm new, not stupid

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    Zeebar and Freightman i will be traveling the US /sleeping in my RV

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    And since i will be traveling th US and seeing things we always wanted to see in my RV i dont think i should count the expenses for food and fuel 7 miles a gallon since me and wife were going to do this before i became an AP. What do you think . Should i count expenses i dont think so because it is a dual purpose trip and my Bankroll is for blackjack only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbd View Post
    And since i will be traveling th US and seeing things we always wanted to see in my RV i dont think i should count the expenses for food and fuel 7 miles a gallon since me and wife were going to do this before i became an AP. What do you think . Should i count expenses i dont think so because it is a dual purpose trip and my Bankroll is for blackjack only.
    Then you should have qualified your comments - or you have stated that you expect your responders to be mind readers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbd View Post
    And since i will be traveling th US and seeing things we always wanted to see in my RV i dont think i should count the expenses for food and fuel 7 miles a gallon since me and wife were going to do this before i became an AP. What do you think . Should i count expenses i dont think so because it is a dual purpose trip and my Bankroll is for blackjack only.
    Other than Colorado, it ain’t like the casinos are located in beautiful places to visit. They are not sitting in national park entrances. My suggestion in to use some expenses, especially if you take casino detours.

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    Freightman i think most people know that a "Bankroll" is just for the game or games your playing. It is used only for 1 purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbd View Post
    Freightman i think most people know that a "Bankroll" is just for the game or games your playing. It is used only for 1 purpose.
    What might that be?

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    Bankroll is only used for the game your playing ,not food, not travel, not even tipping dealers if you are inclined to do so , so ROR would not be effected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbd View Post
    Freightman i think most people know that a "Bankroll" is just for the game or games your playing. It is used only for 1 purpose.
    Freightman, is correct on the matter. Most people traveling the country would definitely be concerned with the associated cost of doing business.

    Quote Originally Posted by bobbd View Post
    And since i will be traveling th US and seeing things we always wanted to see in my RV i dont think i should count the expenses for food and fuel 7 miles a gallon since me and wife were going to do this before i became an AP. What do you think . Should i count expenses i dont think so because it is a dual purpose trip and my Bankroll is for blackjack only.
    This first post of yours quoted below does not sound like a duel purpose trip.

    Quote Originally Posted by bobbd View Post
    Hey guys just wanted to get some of your opinions on - can an AP still make their EV in card counting providing one has a large enough bankroll and travels the country to hit every good shop with good rules, good pen and plays with no cover and just gets backed off and moves on to the next casino trying to get 1000 hrs play in a year. Ex. With a 50,000 dollar bankroll betting strategy 1-20 , standard deviation, risk approx 0.50% , ev 109.00 an hr. Which should mean $100,000 AV in 1,000 hrs.
    Either way that you look at it expenses does become a big part of it.

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    Ok BoSox i understand what your saying but then i guess card counting isnt worth it anymore.

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