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    BJA 3....I'm sick thinking of all the mistakes I made!!

    First and foremost is a huge Thank You to Don! I am forever grateful that you were so persistent in learning, that you did all the hard work. Now people like me just have to read the books, and of course put in the time learning a system we can implement in the casinos. I should have read this book before I played, I knew there was more to learn than just basic strategy, hi-lo count, deviations, and betting strategy.....what I didn't realize was just how much more there was/is to learn. I started playing at the end of last year and I don't even want to know how much I could've lost if it weren't for positive variance. I am excited to get back to the tables (when possible) and kick some ass!

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    “I should have read before I played this game” is like saying I should have completed my PH’d before going to work. Most people work as they study/learn and complete there studies.

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    I disagree, if you can learn before working, you have a much better chance of making more money. However if you start working before you know how to do the job...you are not going to make as much. If you have a choice...it's a smart play to learn first.

    I suggest you study/learn English....if you are going to Quote someone, you should do it correctly...and it's "complete their studies" not "complete there studies". How do people not know the difference??????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooking with cards View Post
    I disagree, if you can learn before working, you have a much better chance of making more money. However if you start working before you know how to do the job...you are not going to make as much. If you have a choice...it's a smart play to learn first.
    This is so silly. You are at your optimum when you have knowledge and experience. Get both together...do internships or work on campus while you study and graduate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    This is so silly. You are at your optimum when you have knowledge and experience. Get both together...do internships or work on campus while you study and graduate.
    Obviously, you would disagree with a famous quote by Lincoln, which has an analogy here: "Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the ax."

    And, Lincoln was no dope.

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    Originally Posted by ZeeBabar
    This is so silly. You are at your optimum when you have knowledge and experience. Get both together...do internships or work on campus while you study and graduate.

    Obviously, you would disagree with a famous quote by Lincoln, which has an analogy here: "Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the ax."



    And, Lincoln was no dope.




    Don

    Don, the Lincoln quote on page 162 that John Auston used was in reference for players to always look for the best game in relation to SCORE. Whereby giving the player the best chance to win more money by playing to the highest EV possible. Of course every new player needs to learn that quickly early on. Now who is more likely to actually follow through with that expert advice given. Someone with knowledge and practical experience, or someone who read the book thoroughly but with very little playing time?
    Last edited by BoSox; 05-20-2020 at 08:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Someone with knowledge and practical experience, or someone who read the book thoroughly but with very little playing time?
    In regards to the above sentence I should have made reference to Blackjack Attack 3rd Edition instead of just saying the book, as the intent was meant as a real compliment to Don's work, which I would described as comprehensive. Explained further, great established players after playing the game for years are still surprised to find valuable pieces of information that they have missed, or not completely grasped correctly after reading the book numerous times. Subsequently if you want to wait until the time that you are confident in all aspects of Don's work before beginning to play the game, when you do arrive to play at a casino for the first time people will be saying that you look like Rip Van Winkle with that long beard and very sharp axe in your hand.
    Last edited by BoSox; 05-21-2020 at 10:42 AM.

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    That was funny Bosox! If I ever grew a beard especially one that long....then I would be going to the doctors not a casino. Woman don't usually grow beards.

    As far as BJA3 and waiting to read the book or not waiting to read the book, all I said was I wish I had read it before really starting my "career" last year. I didn't say I had no previous experience in casinos, nor did I say anyone should read every BJ book before playing the game. In my opinion everyone has their own way of learning and reading has always been a huge part of my life, especially when it concerns learning. I thought I made a simple statement that would be understood.

    ZeeBabar, I can see from multiple other threads, that you have been in serious discussions with multiple people about you learning or not learning, from what people on the forums have tried teaching you, also you wrote about meeting an AP and being able to learn more from him because everyone learns differently. People also learn at different paces obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooking with cards View Post
    As far as BJA3 and waiting to read the book or not waiting to read the book, all I said was I wish I had read it before really starting my "career" last year. I didn't say I had no previous experience in casinos, nor did I say anyone should read every BJ book before playing the game.
    In post#1 you wrote:

    "I started playing at the end of last year and I don't even want to know how much I could've lost if it weren't for positive variance."

    Cooking with cards, I am glad that you started out playing with some positive variance but in reality the amount of actual playing time experience that you have is still from a beginners perspective, meaning, current results up to this point are meaningless regarding a true case study.

    One point that I would like to get across is that I believe there is at LEAST as much education needed for the player to learn in the casino itself as there is from learning from books that cannot nearly cover all the real time situations that present themselves where the player's fate of continued play may depend on a previous experience learned from an education that never ends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooking with cards View Post
    I disagree, if you can learn before working, you have a much better chance of making more money. However if you start working before you know how to do the job...you are not going to make as much. If you have a choice...it's a smart play to learn first.
    Regarding things like learning all about casino comportment through books alone, will not cut it, you are sadly mistaken. Only learning through live practical experience over a period of years can you learn the knowledge required to not get thrown out on a regular basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    “I should have read before I played this game” is like saying I should have completed my PH’d before going to work. Most people work as they study/learn and complete there studies.
    Or maybe like flying a plane without a pilot's license???

    Another piece of bad advice.
    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooking with cards View Post
    First and foremost is a huge Thank You to Don! I am forever grateful that you were so persistent in learning, that you did all the hard work. Now people like me just have to read the books, and of course put in the time learning a system we can implement in the casinos. I should have read this book before I played, I knew there was more to learn than just basic strategy, hi-lo count, deviations, and betting strategy.....what I didn't realize was just how much more there was/is to learn. I started playing at the end of last year and I don't even want to know how much I could've lost if it weren't for positive variance. I am excited to get back to the tables (when possible) and kick some ass!
    If you truly are upset at the thought of leaving money on the table and committed to flawless play and study (not technically you don't need to be perfect but its best to practice as if you do) then you are on your way to long term success. best wishes!

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    Thanks Cohiba...I appreciate it!

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