Hi Pro's.
I have been flat bet in all MGM casino.
For the game 2D S17 DAS bj pay 3:2 , The casino odds is about 0.26.
My question is if I only vary the insurance and buy it on TC3 plus how much will be the impact to overall EV.
And how much it will impact Same game but H17.
My goal is to average bet 500$ per hand create a small EV , Get free promotion , Get invited to tournaments for free and hopefully win some of them.
Any information is appreciated.
Eli
No, it is 0.182.Originally Posted by abukase7
From the top line of p. 62, Table 5.1, column 9, of BJA3, it looks like an additional 0.0223%. I can't see why H17 would make any difference.
So, the house edge would drop to about 0.16%. You still wouldn't have any advantage.
Don
Depending on how many indexes you can memorize. For me, if I use AccuZen level 4 full indexes, the house edge is -0.022%, assuming I use all indexes and play all hands including very negative TC (which requires me to hit some odd hand like hit 15 vs upcard 6 or stand 16 vs upcard 7) and never buy insurances. Buying the insurance properly, add 0.025% to my edge. Under the same condition, now even I flat bet and play all hands, I have the edge of 0.003%.
The answer to your question is 0.025%.
If you play perfect basic strategy and can get about 75% penetration (achievable for a flat bettor), you can cut that -0.182 edge down to zero using the Insurance count as described here: https://www.888casino.com/blog/side-...jack-insurance
G Man
Interesting approach, variance will be high but as long as you can fade I would assume that the casino comps (with an actual $$ value) would put you over the top. At some point the comps have to count for $$ that you can put back into the bankroll o/w your ROR would be 100%. That said if you are already flat bet for counting I would expect that they would cut your comp rate (likely to zero) as well. if they let you play with a flat bet and are ok with the comps then a few well timed BR breaks and cell calls may send you north of the border. In past have taken comps as offered but always played an aggressive scorched earth approach strictly seeking EV. Lately I have xonsidered idea of playing the game in a manner to maximize comps with value. The only problems boil down to 1) have to re-adjust to playing some negative ev hands, 2) not sure that the current casino environment is really seeking table game - even higher level table game actions, and 3) can still get backed off. Anyhow its a thought.....
even if someone is flat betted, i would imagine that they would be able to play with at least a break even game if they were to wong in and out aggressively and use deviations.. wouldn't be a bad strategy to use at a place to get comps, no? unless of course they took away your comps too, then the small possible edge probably wouldn't even be worth it.. i've never been flat betted. is it common for a place to take away comps too? or do they usually just figure flat betters can't win anyway so they keep the comps?
i was gonna say he might try and break even at 500 a hand and just endure all of that variance to have his comps nuked anyway especially if all he plays is blackjack.
OP did they say specifically say you have to flat bet or you can't raise your bets?
In my experience being flat bet and "no more comps" is usually a package deal (kinda like a 2 for 1 promotion). Sometimes, not always, they zero out or freezer your existing comp balance. That's why I interested in hearing back from the OP how he was treated in that regard by MGM.
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