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    Most unique perspective from a qualified person on Coronavirus

    Older people severely affected by COVID-19 also exhibit such immune hyper-reactivity, suggesting that they may have been primed by a pathogen exposure in the 1950s, before the less vulnerable population was born.
    So, while old people must strenuously avoid being infected regardless of their current health status, for everyone else, particularly young adults and children, a different policy should be in effect. Vaccination is the safest way to establish “herd immunity,” the condition in which the general population is largely resistant to an infection, and its members, even if they become infected, are therefore incapable of spreading it. Until there is a vaccine for COVID-19, however, the only route to herd immunity is for those who can be infected without getting sick, become so.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/03...make-it-worse/


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    If you're suggesting everyone just becomes sick "to establish her immunity" like the UK has so "brilliantly planned" it's a terrible, idiotic idea. You know that right now, in the USA, hospitals operate around 96% capacity? If the transmission isn't slowed down significantly, in a couple weeks the USA is going to look just like Italy is right now. Hospitals way over capacity, people dying in the streets. The mortality rate is way higher than it could be if the transmission was slowed down to spread out the morbidity curve and allow severe cases to get the treatment they deserve. When hospitals are way past capacity, there's only 1 ventilator for every 100 people that needs one, etc, the number of severe cases essentially becomes the fatality rate. You may as well be back in primitive times with no health care. IF the transmission is slowed, ie "flattening the curve", then all severe cases can get the health care they deserve and millions of lives will be saved.

    You might think that a 0.2, or even 0.1% fatality rate for people under 40 seems negligible for any one individual. But on a societal scale, considering no one has immunity to this thing, and it's highly contagious nature (exponential growth, 1 case of covid-19 becomes tens of thousands in the same amount of time 1 case of the flu becomes 64), it's still a public health disaster.

    Also, it's totally false that it "isn't that bad" for young people. In many cases it isn't, but it can still be very serious. People in their 20s and late teens are still being hospitalized.

    For small children, the viral titer is very high in their lungs. Yet they show no symptoms. Who knows what this may cause later on in life.

    Also, in some cases it seems to me the virus may lie dormant in the central nervous system and can cause reinfection. I hope this is not the case/is rare. However, this may be something that stays with you for life.

    https://journals.lww.com/neurotodayo...spx?PostID=908

    https://thehill.com/changing-america...son-reinfected

    There's so much we don't know yet. All I suggest is that you isolate yourself and try not to catch it / spread it to more vulnerable people for now. Even if you are personally low risk. For the good of everyone.

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    Does that mean you wouldn't go to a casino if they're still open?

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    Sadly enough, I had to fly back to Canada from college in the USA asap with fears of border closing. Went through some of the worst areas and airports. Quarantined myself to the basement so I don't infect my parents incase I picked it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooking with cards View Post
    Does that mean you wouldn't go to a casino if they're still open?
    not in a million f'in years!!!!....or realistically until way after this passes

    the most 'qualified person on coronavirus' is one who has it!!!...after hearing the CDC says a couple weeks ago that "it's only contagious from someone displaying symptoms" ....that was TOTALLY FALSE!!!!!

    GMA this morning had the kat from the Detroit Pistons that contracted it and he said he feels 100% normal...that's BOTH b4 he contracted and also since he contracted it....he even said if he had a 7-game series starting tonight (good luck w/ that Pistons) that he's ready to "lace them up tonight"....what???

    WTF....I actually belived the CDC's claim and kept a keen eye on dealer and table conditions (healthwise)....now I may be fucked....;((((

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    There have been a lot of false claims.

    There was also the flood of claims that "wearing a mask won't help prevent a healthy person from contracting the virus".

    I even saw an article on CNN or something, can't remember where, titled "why wearing a mask may actually increase your risk of infection".

    Deliberately misleading to try to ensure enough masks for healthcare workers. I see why it was done, but it's still wrong in my view.

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    Just in case anyone is curious regarding fatality rates by age group...but consider BI's source...

    https://www.businessinsider.com/coro...source=taboola
    Last edited by Wave; 03-16-2020 at 05:42 PM.

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    Be aware that these number are very likely off.

    Think about how many mild cases aren't being diagnosed? Probably a lot. However, on the flip side, there are also deaths in the USA being classified as pneumonia or the flu, which have both seen surges recently, that are likely truly Coronavirus. Nonetheless the net skew is most likely still towards a decrease in the true mortality rate from undiagnosed mild cases.

    2) If we can manage to contain and slow the spread, we can definitely decrease these mortality rates by allowing everyone who needs it to get proper health care and not flood the system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountinCanadian View Post
    Be aware that these number are very likely off.

    Think about how many mild cases aren't being diagnosed? Probably a lot. However, on the flip side, there are also deaths in the USA being classified as pneumonia or the flu, which have both seen surges recently, that are likely truly Coronavirus. Nonetheless the net skew is most likely still towards a decrease in the true mortality rate from undiagnosed mild cases.

    2) If we can manage to contain and slow the spread, we can definitely decrease these mortality rates by allowing everyone who needs it to get proper health care and not flood the system.
    And the slower it spreads the longer companies are out of business and the more bankruptcies there will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casinoguy13 View Post
    And the slower it spreads the longer companies are out of business and the more bankruptcies there will be.
    The mechanism for medically induced martial law.

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