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    Correcting dealer errors

    Do you ever correct a dealer to your disadvantage? At local shops where I have a "relationship", I usually will if I'm the only person or one of only a few, especially if the other one or two people I know as other regulars.
    The other morning, one of my regular stops was breaking in a new dealer. The craps table became quite busy so the pit boss drifted away from watching her. She ended up pulling a 5-card 21 and apparently thought she'd busted as she paid the table. The table was nearly full of ploppies so I kept my mouth shut in this instance, but felt bad for her.

    If I'm on a "working vacation" someplace I rarely go, I'll usually ignore dealer errors in my favor. At the local shops, I view it as one of the costs of cover to be honest (again, if it is only me or another one or two regulars at the table).

    Thoughts?

    And just an aside, the craps table hit the "all" side bet a few minutes later, setting off pandemonium. I overheard one of the dealers say they paid out over $10K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBear4SJ View Post
    Do you ever correct a dealer to your disadvantage?
    Of course! why would i let them take my $$ when i didn't lose . I think you make a great" dealer "

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    The only time I correct dealer mistakes that result in me receiving an over-payment is when the floor is watching and will most likely see it. Other than that I accept it and pretend not to see it. You should always be mindful of your body language, if it can be seen in your body language that you've lost the hand the dealer will make fewer mistakes in your favor. Dealers also make more mistakes when they are talking.
    Last edited by SammyBoy; 03-04-2020 at 12:08 PM. Reason: Correct typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by SammyBoy View Post
    The only time I correct dealer mistakes that result in me receiving an over-payment is when the floor is watching and will most likely see it. Other than that I accept it and pretend not to see it. You should always be mindful of your body language, if it can be seen in your body language that you've lost the hand the dealer will make fewer mistakes in your favor. Dealers also make more mistakes when they are talking.
    Exactly!

    Once I corrected a dealer who underpaid herself on a (+EV) sidebet I put out for her.

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    No. Dealer errors are my well deserved bonuses. In fact, after a dealer error has been made, I will distract the dealer so that they do not notice and correct their mistake.



    That being said, I do believe in making conscious decisions to strengthen my relationship to my home casino. So I will do things like show up early to start the poker game, put in long hours playing poker there, spending money in the casino (food) and being respectful to players and staff, as well as keeping my wins small and my max bet low. APs and casinos can exist symbiotically, while we both feast on the fish.
    Last edited by Meistro123; 03-04-2020 at 04:19 PM.

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    I would never, never correct a dealer error in the casino's favor. That's their job...it could also work against you since you are then showing that you are actually paying attention, which creates suspicion. I also believe AP's and Casino's cannot exist "symbiotically". For one thing, casino mgmt. is too stupid to understand such a long word....(just my opinion, based only on over 40 years of play from the lowest to highest stakes).

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    Sometimes a dealer pays you off (as well as others) and then, as he/she is collecting the cards, she realizes that a player had been mis-paid. She calls the pit. Do you demand evidence she mis-paid you or just hand the winnings back?

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    If it’s in my favor I grab the chips as fast as I can without giving away that I noticed the mistake. If it’s in their favor I nicely point it out. AP is all about exploiting weak games - why would dealer errors be an exception? Would you point out that a dealer was flashing their hole card?

    Hell, I do things to purposely increase dealer errors, especially with weak dealers.

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    That's easy...once again I don't say anything. Her job at that point is to call the pit and let them sort it out and tell her what to do. If the pit determines that I need to correct something I will do what they say. In addition, if something does not fit into exactly the correct sequence of events it can lead to suspicion that there is some type of "collusion" between the player and dealer. I actually have found the casino is really quick to be suspicious of dealer's integrity...just as a bank is very suspicious of tellers. When something out of the ordinary happens the dealer should call the pit and the player should be passive about it. Again, this is the way I treat it...doesn't make it right for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBear4SJ View Post
    Do you ever correct a dealer to your disadvantage? At local shops where I have a "relationship", I usually will if I'm the only person or one of only a few, especially if the other one or two people I know as other regulars.
    The other morning, one of my regular stops was breaking in a new dealer. The craps table became quite busy so the pit boss drifted away from watching her. She ended up pulling a 5-card 21 and apparently thought she'd busted as she paid the table. The table was nearly full of ploppies so I kept my mouth shut in this instance, but felt bad for her.

    If I'm on a "working vacation" someplace I rarely go, I'll usually ignore dealer errors in my favor. At the local shops, I view it as one of the costs of cover to be honest (again, if it is only me or another one or two regulars at the table).

    Thoughts?

    And just an aside, the craps table hit the "all" side bet a few minutes later, setting off pandemonium. I overheard one of the dealers say they paid out over $10K.
    Good question. If it only costs you a few dollars...then yes I too correct the dealer to my disadvantage, but do it subtlety. Dealers and pit remember when you do that, which can make them like you and let you play longer...maybe.
    But usually only if I am heads up. If other players, then almost always no I don't correct my disadvantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SammyBoy View Post
    The only time I correct dealer mistakes that result in me receiving an over-payment is when the floor is watching and will most likely see it. Other than that I accept it and pretend not to see it. You should always be mindful of your body language, if it can be seen in your body language that you've lost the hand the dealer will make fewer mistakes in your favor. Dealers also make more mistakes when they are talking.
    Absolutely! I don't correct dealer errors either. Sammy is right though because body language is important. I try to show little to no emotion when the dealer draws out because sometimes you get paid incorrectly if you don't react. If I do get paid out in error, I try to turn my attention away from the table and distract myself with my phone or something, so when the dealer pays me by mistake, my eyes are not on the table. I wait till the bet has been paid and the cards have been scooped up before I turn my attention back to the table. Collect my win and press on. There have been several times where even a floor manager was actually watching the table as the dealer is incorrectly paying me out and they don't catch it! Just distract yourself and make sure it doesn't look like you saw the incorrect payout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    Once I corrected a dealer who underpaid herself on a (+EV) sidebet I put out for her.
    I do that all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CEO1 View Post
    ...(just my opinion, based only on over 40 years of play from the lowest to highest stakes).
    OK. We just have different opinions based on similar experience (30 years here)
    Last edited by UNCBear4SJ; 03-04-2020 at 09:32 PM.

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