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    Backed off, again...actually via countermeasures

    After spending about 2 years away from the casino that had put me on the OSN, had taken countermeasures against me, after ownership had changed hands, I had started going back, with very slight change in appearance, avoided those pit folks who might recognize me and started playing deck games, then even sneaking into the HL room for very short sessions. I was slightly above even after some 6 sessions.

    Tonight, Zi went in and started playing a 6 deck, minimum $15 game. I joined it mid deck, flatbetted thru to the end of the shoe and as dealer was reaching for the ASM, couple of pit guys came over. I am at 3rd base, he is at first. He had been betting $25 with $5on each side bet. First, the pit guy told him that they were only going to deal one shoe of the 6 deck shoe. I thought he had been busted but the guy came over and asked me if I had heard. I said I did not understand. He said that they were going to deal only one shoe here and whichever table I sat at. Since I had only been betting $15, I gave him an incredulous look, said “me? “. He said yes and I moved away.

    Since most of the tables were crowded on this Saturday night, I considered testing the guy but decided I did not want to spoil it for folks at other tables.

    So I came home, posting this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    After spending about 2 years away from the casino that had put me on the OSN, had taken countermeasures against me, after ownership had changed hands, I had started going back, with very slight change in appearance, avoided those pit folks who might recognize me and started playing deck games, then even sneaking into the HL room for very short sessions. I was slightly above even after some 6 sessions.

    Tonight, Zi went in and started playing a 6 deck, minimum $15 game. I joined it mid deck, flatbetted thru to the end of the shoe and as dealer was reaching for the ASM, couple of pit guys came over. I am at 3rd base, he is at first. He had been betting $25 with $5on each side bet. First, the pit guy told him that they were only going to deal one shoe of the 6 deck shoe. I thought he had been busted but the guy came over and asked me if I had heard. I said I did not understand. He said that they were going to deal only one shoe here and whichever table I sat at. Since I had only been betting $15, I gave him an incredulous look, said “me? “. He said yes and I moved away.

    Since most of the tables were crowded on this Saturday night, I considered testing the guy but decided I did not want to spoil it for folks at other tables.

    So I came home, posting this.
    I assume you mean "one deck" not "one shoe."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    After spending about 2 years away from the casino that had put me on the OSN, had taken countermeasures against me, after ownership had changed hands, I had started going back, with very slight change in appearance, avoided those pit folks who might recognize me and started playing deck games, then even sneaking into the HL room for very short sessions. I was slightly above even after some 6 sessions.

    Tonight, Zi went in and started playing a 6 deck, minimum $15 game. I joined it mid deck, flatbetted thru to the end of the shoe and as dealer was reaching for the ASM, couple of pit guys came over. I am at 3rd base, he is at first. He had been betting $25 with $5on each side bet. First, the pit guy told him that they were only going to deal one shoe of the 6 deck shoe. I thought he had been busted but the guy came over and asked me if I had heard. I said I did not understand. He said that they were going to deal only one shoe here and whichever table I sat at. Since I had only been betting $15, I gave him an incredulous look, said “me? “. He said yes and I moved away.

    Since most of the tables were crowded on this Saturday night, I considered testing the guy but decided I did not want to spoil it for folks at other tables.

    So I came home, posting this.
    Sigh...you recognize the pit folks...but you don't think they remember a guy that looks like you who they put in OSN? Lol.
    Whoever Zi is...I think he is fucked again at this casino, and probably elsewhere lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Counting_Is_Fun View Post
    Sigh...you recognize the pit folks...but you don't think they remember a guy that looks like you who they put in OSN? Lol.
    Whoever Zi is...I think he is fucked again at this casino, and probably elsewhere lol.
    Unlike some young idiots who think a thread belongs to them, I won’t tell you to get off my thread.

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    I’m interested to hear/see how much future play is hindered... Will it be measurable? Good luck ZI. Go get em!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bricklayer View Post
    I’m interested to hear/see how much future play is hindered... Will it be measurable? Good luck ZI. Go get em!
    It seems to be hindered at that casino. I have had no problems lately from the othe4 casinos in town nor the casinos sister property on the other side of the state nor elseswhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Counting_Is_Fun View Post
    Sigh...you recognize the pit folks...but you don't think they remember a guy that looks like you who they put in OSN? Lol.
    Whoever Zi is...I think he is fucked again at this casino, and probably elsewhere lol.
    But in his defense, he did say he changed his appearance. Growing out head hair, growing out facial hair, changing appearance of skin color, etc can make the same person look drastically different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackjack Newbie View Post
    But in his defense, he did say he changed his appearance. Growing out head hair, growing out facial hair, changing appearance of skin color, etc can make the same person look drastically different.
    I don't think he has much head hair...and how exactly would he change his skin color? Lol. Please let me know...that would really help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Counting_Is_Fun View Post
    I don't think he has much head hair...and how exactly would he change his skin color? Lol. Please let me know...that would really help!
    I have a half dozen toupees, a couple of ‘starches, a couple of beards, glasses with different frames, a wheel chair, a couple of canes, a walker, and since my OSN appearance, I have done the same thing Michael Jackson did about skin color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Counting_Is_Fun View Post
    I don't think he has much head hair...and how exactly would he change his skin color? Lol. Please let me know...that would really help!
    There are ways of changing skin color. For example, Beyonce is an African American Woman but in one of her Album Covers she looked lighter than Salma Hayek, no joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackjack Newbie View Post
    There are ways of changing skin color. For example, Beyonce is an African American Woman but in one of her Album Covers she looked lighter than Salma Hayek, no joke.
    That could have been accomplished via lighting, make up, or digital editing...or a combination of any or all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    I have a half dozen toupees, a couple of ‘starches, a couple of beards, glasses with different frames, a wheel chair, a couple of canes, a walker, and since my OSN appearance, I have done the same thing Michael Jackson did about skin color.
    Toupees, beards, glasses, wheelchairs, canes, walkers etc are not really going to make casino people forget your face or mannerisms. Humans are incredible at remembering faces etc, even years later.

    So I guess you are bleaching your skin to play BJ now? That's what Michael Jackson did. Wow, I give you credit if you are really doing that. My advice would be to learn BS, buy cvcx so that you know your true EV, SD, NO etc before playing a game...might help you win more money than trying to disguise yourself.
    And I thought you were a recreational player, who just plays for fun and to go see friends at the casino? Do your friends know it's you when you have your disguises on?
    Last edited by Counting_Is_Fun; 02-19-2020 at 09:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Counting_Is_Fun View Post
    Toupees, beards, glasses, wheelchairs, canes, walkers etc are not really going to make casino people forget your face or mannerisms. Humans are incredible at remembering faces etc, even years later.

    So I guess you are bleaching your skin to play BJ now? That's what Michael Jackson did. Wow, I give you credit if you are really doing that. My advice would be to learn BS, buy cvcx so that you know your true EV, SD, NO etc before playing a game...might help you win more money than trying to disguise yourself.
    And I thought you were a recreational player, who just plays for fun and to go see friends at the casino? Do your friends know it's you when you have your disguises on?
    Now you are asking me questions? Note how many others responded to that post I made about disguises. They all know I am a retired plastic surgeon, who retired because heat was getting high as the feds suspected I had worked on people they wanted, had questioned me about providing pictures that I might have has about the work I had done.

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