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    Will you leave this table?

    The table condition is great except someone seems to be able to see the future. When she added a hand or skip a hand, it took away my Blackjack. It happened five times when I place a max bet. On these five occasions, I lost my hands instead of getting four Blackjack and one twenty. On the other hand, she won all five rounds by correctly bet two, one or no hands.

    And she did this all at the last minute. Sometimes she wanted to add one more hand or pulled her bet back when dealer already dealt a card to the first base. So eventually the dealer set a ground rule for her. But later a replacement dealer doesn't know her bad habit. She hesitated if she wants to play the hand or not and dealer has dealt one card to the first base. Then she placed her bet. Dealer gave her a card and said she is late but he let it slide. What made me mad is that if she had not played this hand, I would have got the Lucky Lady bet (two Queens of Heart) and I had $15 side bet on it because TC is off the chart. This is the first time I got mad in 30 years at Blackjack table because I lost five max bets then Lucky Lady. Never encountered slightly similar thing like this before. Hard to get back-to-back monster shoes, TC peaked at 16 and 22, and this woman ruined it for me.

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    Tables with no mid-shoe entry do have some benefits...

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    Will you leave this table?

    They let me play one or two hands even with no mid-shoe.

    I would not leave unless I am sure she knows something that I don’t know. Obviously the count is high. If the count is high, why can’t you play two too?
    Last edited by Hsiaodi; 01-20-2020 at 12:53 PM.

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    Seems like voodoo logic as how others play does not affect your results. Yes, it’s irritating when someone is switching from one hand to more and I have to remind myself not to let it affect my emotions, to keep playing. However, sometimes we lose (it’s variance), sometimes we cannot help get upset and if that happens, I leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsiaodi View Post
    If the count is high, why can’t you play two too?
    Some casinos will not allow you to switch to two hands if you've started with one. You either play two from the beginning, or you play one all the way through.

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Seems like voodoo logic as how others play does not affect your results. Yes, it’s irritating when someone is switching from one hand to more and I have to remind myself not to let it affect my emotions, to keep playing. However, sometimes we lose (it’s variance), sometimes we cannot help get upset and if that happens, I leave.
    I always laughed at those people who think they can use their psychic power to play Blackjack until I met a real one. Or did I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    Some casinos will not allow you to switch to two hands if you've started with one. You either play two from the beginning, or you play one all the way through.

    Don
    It’s casino and/or floor dependent I am sure. I’ve also played at ones that you have to play 2x the minimum or something like that to pay two hands.

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    Better yet, if you have the opportunity, play head to head with no mid-shoe entry. Solves the entire issue regarding people jumping in on good counts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJGenius007 View Post
    And she did this all at the last minute. Sometimes she wanted to add one more hand or pulled her bet back when dealer already dealt a card to the first base.
    I have also seen someone trying this move only it was a man doing it. The dealer handled it perfectly by pulling the persons bet back immediately and issuing a stern warning that it will not be done again or he will get himself thrown out.

    Quote Originally Posted by BJGenius007 View Post
    So eventually the dealer set a ground rule for her.
    Eventually, WHAT, that was not handling it properly, the dealer was not doing his/her job correctly, and you enabled it to continue temporarily. This was on you, sour grapes after the fact. The problem should have been solved well before the replacement dealer took over.

    Quote Originally Posted by BJGenius007 View Post
    But later a replacement dealer doesn't know her bad habit. She hesitated if she wants to play the hand or not and dealer has dealt one card to the first base. Then she placed her bet. Dealer gave her a card and said she is late but he let it slide.
    The occurrence should never have happened if you insisted that the dealer correct it properly when it immediately took place before the woman received her first card, or exactly at that point it took place.
    Last edited by BoSox; 01-20-2020 at 04:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    I have also seen someone trying this move only it was a man doing it. The dealer handled it perfectly by pulling the persons bet back immediately and issuing a stern warning that it will not be done again or he will get himself thrown out.



    Eventually, WHAT, that was not handling it properly, the dealer was not doing his/her job correctly, and you enabled it to continue temporarily. This was on you, sour grapes after the fact. The problem should have been solved well before the replacement dealer took over.



    The occurrence should never have happened if you insisted that the dealer correct it properly when it immediately took place before the woman received her first card, or exactly at that point it took place.
    I understand your point of view. But there is only one dealer in the entire casino enforcing the rules strictly. She would warn the players if they don't follow the rule that they cannot add bet or pull the bet once she began to deal cards.

    And most ploppies call her "bitch of the casino".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsiaodi View Post
    It’s casino and/or floor dependent I am sure. I’ve also played at ones that you have to play 2x the minimum or something like that to pay two hands.
    And 5x the minimum to play 3 spots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Seems like voodoo logic as how others play does not affect your results
    Zee, I always thought that the concept "how others play does not affect your results" is correct in the long run, not necessarily for a short episode (2 shoes). It's apparent that her play did affect the OP's win/loss ratio.

    In answer to the OP's question. Yes, I would leave this table.
    Last edited by 21frogman; 01-22-2020 at 08:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJGenius007 View Post
    I always laughed at those people who think they can use their psychic power to play Blackjack until I met a real one. Or did I?
    No she does not know. Your rationale is voodoo logic. However, I do get pissed of when ploppies start opening spots at anything over TC +1. What I do is fight right back, so when they open a hand I say I will drop mine if they do. Most back off, with the most stubborn ones I even offer to play in their hand to keep the maximum amount of rounds. I know I’m relinquishing my ability to dispute their urge to always take even money or not take advantage of ilustrious 18... but it has worked for me so far.

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