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    Anyone read this? A book for someone like me it sounds.

    I would be the second voodoo player type he mentions, “The other category consists of voodoo players who prefer to avoid losing, even if it means sacrificing the possible thrill of a big win. They know that it is no fun to lose money and are perfectly satisfied with a small win or breaking even. They take more of a defensive approach to playing and hope to avoid a losing streak that wipes them out.”

    https://www.amazon.com/WHERE-VOODOO-...5043192&sr=8-1

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    A book for someone like me it sounds.
    Like a quote from Yoda that sounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    I would be the second voodoo player type he mentions, “The other category consists of voodoo players who prefer to avoid losing, even if it means sacrificing the possible thrill of a big win. They know that it is no fun to lose money and are perfectly satisfied with a small win or breaking even. They take more of a defensive approach to playing and hope to avoid a losing streak that wipes them out.”

    https://www.amazon.com/WHERE-VOODOO-...5043192&sr=8-1
    The blurb sounds like consummate drivel.

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    The blurb sounds like consummate drivel.
    To me, the blurb sounded like it was custom written for Zee and MWP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    The blurb sounds like consummate drivel.

    Don
    Don, what do you find as “drivel” from the following “Through 20 years of playing, studying, and thinking about Blackjack, I have witnessed a recurring clash between some of the players. On one side of the debate, we have the advantage players. They are the ones who are able to back up and see the big picture. They are able to see beyond the short-term fluctuations in the same way that the gambling industry itself does to obtain a mathematical advantage. For them, the game is a means to an end, and they are not concerned with having fun unless it leads to long-term profit. On the other side, we have the voodoo players. They may know that advantage players have a long-term advantage, but they may also know that card counting is difficult to master, does not guarantee that you will win, takes some of the fun out of the game, and can get you kicked out of casinos. Voodoo players who use strategies can be divided into two categories. One category consists of voodoo players who use strategies that can lead to the instant gratification of a large payout. They want what they want when they want it and they don’t want to wait for it. For them, the game is about having fun and they know what is possible in the short term, regardless of the odds. The other category consists of voodoo players who prefer to avoid losing, even if it means sacrificing the possible thrill of a big win. They know that it is no fun to lose money and are perfectly satisfied with a small win or breaking even. They take more of a defensive approach to playing and hope to avoid a losing streak that wipes them out. Rather than choosing a side and defending it, I have created a bridge between the voodoo player in the second category and the advantage player. This is where my personal journey has led me, and it is the inspiration for this work.”

    I wonder what is in the book. There maybe psychological issues that many prospective card counters have to deal with and perhaps strategies for dealing with them. Just dont know what is in the book. If it’s how to count or much of the stuff you have covered so excellently in BJA, then it’s not much use but if it is dealing with issues some of us face....like having our max bet out, getting an Ace,6 against a 2 or other doubles or splits we balk at or “choke”...and ideas on the sorts of things that can help transition us to real AP’s, then maybe it’s worth reading.

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    Zee, you don't need to cite the whole text when there's a link. Threads tend to explode recently regarding the length of the posts :-)

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    If you believe in voodoo, you belong in Haiti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShipTheCookies View Post
    If you believe in voodoo, you belong in Haiti.
    Or....maybe in baseball

    https://youtu.be/VGraAwtXbEQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShipTheCookies View Post
    If you believe in voodoo, you belong in Haiti.
    Or San Monique, says Kananga / Mr. Big. He also believes in the flow of the cards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Don, what do you find as “drivel” from the following “Through 20 years of playing, studying, and thinking about Blackjack, I have witnessed a recurring clash between some of the players. On one side of the debate, we have the advantage players. They are the ones who are able to back up and see the big picture. They are able to see beyond the short-term fluctuations in the same way that the gambling industry itself does to obtain a mathematical advantage. For them, the game is a means to an end, and they are not concerned with having fun unless it leads to long-term profit. On the other side, we have the voodoo players. They may know that advantage players have a long-term advantage, but they may also know that card counting is difficult to master, does not guarantee that you will win, takes some of the fun out of the game, and can get you kicked out of casinos. Voodoo players who use strategies can be divided into two categories. One category consists of voodoo players who use strategies that can lead to the instant gratification of a large payout. They want what they want when they want it and they don’t want to wait for it. For them, the game is about having fun and they know what is possible in the short term, regardless of the odds. The other category consists of voodoo players who prefer to avoid losing, even if it means sacrificing the possible thrill of a big win. They know that it is no fun to lose money and are perfectly satisfied with a small win or breaking even. They take more of a defensive approach to playing and hope to avoid a losing streak that wipes them out. Rather than choosing a side and defending it, I have created a bridge between the voodoo player in the second category and the advantage player. This is where my personal journey has led me, and it is the inspiration for this work.”

    I wonder what is in the book. There maybe psychological issues that many prospective card counters have to deal with and perhaps strategies for dealing with them. Just dont know what is in the book. If it’s how to count or much of the stuff you have covered so excellently in BJA, then it’s not much use but if it is dealing with issues some of us face....like having our max bet out, getting an Ace,6 against a 2 or other doubles or splits we balk at or “choke”...and ideas on the sorts of things that can help transition us to real AP’s, then maybe it’s worth reading.
    What's wrong with it is that there's a right way to play and a wrong way to play. You don't "bridge that gap" between smart play and voodoo. There is no middle ground. You can't be almost pregnant: you either are or you aren't.

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    What's wrong with it is that there's a right way to play and a wrong way to play. You don't "bridge that gap" between smart play and voodoo. There is no middle ground. You can't be almost pregnant: you either are or you aren't.

    Don
    Reminds me of a time that I swerved to avoid an accident, and nearly fell off the couch

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    What's wrong with it is that there's a right way to play and a wrong way to play. You don't "bridge that gap" between smart play and voodoo. There is no middle ground. You can't be almost pregnant: you either are or you aren't.

    Don
    Don, is that not too simplistic an answer? There are those who play differently, slash and burn types, spreading outrageously and there are those who play in a different way for, say longevity, or because they are overly paranoid of being backed off. People also select a way to play that is different because of bank roll consideration or game conditions they face.

    Maybe there is someone one here who has bough5 that book or maybe someone will post reviews on Amazon.

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    It's pretty simple. You spend the 11 bucks and satisfy your yourself instead getting in mindless discussions that will lead you down the rabbit hole. You look foolish and cheap.
    Last edited by Eye of the Eagle; 11-29-2019 at 07:09 PM.

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