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    WONG HALVES COUNTING SYSTEM, 8D, S17, DAS, ENHC, ES10, DAS, DO2, RS2, RSA2, BJ pay 3 to 2.

    I have calculated the ev for hand (4,4) vs 4:-

    1)
    (4,4) vs 4 and removed additional 5 cards ( 2 to 6, one card each), TC = +1.02, ev(SPLIT) = +2.32%, ev(HIT) = +5.39%

    2) (4,4) vs 4 and removed additional 20 cards ( 2 to 6, four cards each), TC = +3.04, ev(SPLIT) = +8.62%, ev(HIT) = +8.06%


    So, I think the index generated(4,4 vs 4, INDEX = +3.2) by
    Gramazeka is more accurate.

    I am NODOBY here, please correct me if I am wrong.

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    The correct index is +3. It's what I have for the RPC, it's what Wong gives for Halves in Pro BJ, and it's what Norm shows here: https://www.card-counting.com/cvcxonlineviewer3.htm

    You can't calculate indices as above; you don't account for any neutral cards that are in the group removed, and you have to include them. Doing "reprenstative decks" is never accurate in any event.

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    The correct index is +3. It's what I have for the RPC, it's what Wong gives for Halves in Pro BJ, and it's what Norm shows here: https://www.card-counting.com/cvcxonlineviewer3.htm

    You can't calculate indices as above; you don't account for any neutral cards that are in the group removed, and you have to include them. Doing "reprenstative decks" is never accurate in any event.

    Don
    What's the deal with Representative Subsets anyway? Why are they (dis)favoured by certain groups?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    The correct index is +3. It's what I have for the RPC, it's what Wong gives for Halves in Pro BJ, and it's what Norm shows here: https://www.card-counting.com/cvcxonlineviewer3.htm

    You can't calculate indices as above; you don't account for any neutral cards that are in the group removed, and you have to include them. Doing "reprenstative decks" is never accurate in any event.


    Don

    Totally agreed that "reprenstative decks" is never accurate in any event !

    I think should sim through a shoe and calculate the average ev(of 4,4 vs 4) for ALL possible deck compositions that give TC = +3, and repeat for millions of shoe. Is it correct to use this method to find index ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogman_1234 View Post
    What's the deal with Representative Subsets anyway? Why are they (dis)favoured by certain groups?
    If we know a certain Representative Subsets, then it would be much easier to find the index.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    The correct index is +3. It's what I have for the RPC, it's what Wong gives for Halves in Pro BJ, and it's what Norm shows here: https://www.card-counting.com/cvcxonlineviewer3.htm

    You can't calculate indices as above; you don't account for any neutral cards that are in the group removed, and you have to include them. Doing "reprenstative decks" is never accurate in any event.

    Don

    Can you show me on what page(in Pro BJ) show wong halves index of +3 for (4,4) vs 4 ? What I can found is +1 on Page 283.

    WH index.jpg
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    http://www.cosmodv.narod.ru./ Under this link you will find the hidden source code.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James989 View Post
    If we know a certain Representative Subsets, then it would be much easier to find the index.
    Only problem is that there is no representative subset. There can't be. It's also important to remember that indices interact with one another. Index generation is far more difficult than normal blackjack simulation.
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