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    Now why did it take you 10 posts to say that instead of 1? Are you that desperate for attention?

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    https://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/calculator/ says about 0.75 percent house edge for these rules, so TC 1 would still be at 0.25 percent disadvantage, TC 2 would be 0.25 edge, TC 3 would be 0.75 percent edge, and so forth. This has all been stated by Ronster. So what now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meistro123 View Post
    Now why did it take you 10 posts to say that instead of 1? Are you that desperate for attention?
    No longer worthwhile responding to you

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkChip View Post
    https://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/calculator/ says about 0.75 percent house edge for these rules, so TC 1 would still be at 0.25 percent disadvantage, TC 2 would be 0.25 edge, TC 3 would be 0.75 percent edge, and so forth. This has all been stated by Ronster. So what now?
    Stated but incorrectly. I used a simulator, which is more accurate that your .5% per true count measurement, which does not account for the fact that you are going over the whole of the true count bin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    No longer worthwhile responding to you
    I would actually pay you money to never respond to me again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meistro123 View Post
    Stated but incorrectly. I used a simulator, which is more accurate that your .5% per true count measurement, which does not account for the fact that you are going over the whole of the true count bin.
    Yes, but the inaccuracy should play a minor role in comparison to the great ideas announced but not revealed here ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkChip View Post
    Yes, but the inaccuracy should play a minor role in comparison to the great ideas announced but not revealed here ;-)
    Correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronster View Post
    I have found a casino that has spread a 6 deck shoe... 4.5 to 5.0 pen, h17, doa2, ndas, split 4 times, no resplit on AA, no surrender. The minimum is $1.00, max is $1,000...Here is the twist...It pays even money on blackjack from $1.00 up to $9.00, and from $10.00 on up Blackjack pays 3 to 2....At 1st I wrinkled my nose at this game because of the $1 to $9 even money on blackjack aspect, but then I started looking at the $1.00 min bet as a cheap way to wong (without actually wong-ing at all), even tho my $1.00 bet only paid even money for a BJ. (I double down on the $1.00 Blackjack)..There doesn't seem to be any heat for spreading from $1.00 up to $40.00, at least so far....

    I would be interested to hear what others think about the table conditions, namely the even money on BJ from $1.00 up to $9.00?.....Thank you for any and all input.....ronster
    Simulators won’t work as far as I ‘know, as the dual BJ payout can’t be handled. So......., pencil and paper.

    Assume 100 hands per hour, average pen producing 25 hands player advantage, 75 hands house advantage.
    75 loser hands at $1=$75 action per hour at 3% he = loss of $2.25 per hour.
    25 winner hands at $20 avg. = $500 action per hour = 1.5% player advantage =gain of $7.50 per hour.
    Profit is $5.25 per hour.
    Even money BJ $1 min bet at 3% house edge means nothing.

    Here’s another way of looking at it.
    Two tables side by side. One table pays even money bj bets. Beast mode ASM deals 75 hands per hour insuring no true exceeds 2.5. You flat bet $1.00, expecting a 3% loss on your $75 action. The table next door, with a very chatty dealer dealing only 25 hands per hour, has beast mode set to insure that all hands equate to true 3 and above. You average $20 bet on 25 hands =$500 at 1.5%. Pretty simple really. Adjust for varying trues, various advantages, and varying deck pens, however, the point is clear.

    Increase your positive bet, increase your profit.

    Ronster was much closer to house edge calculation than Meistro. Further, his instincts were correct. Adjust for edge up or down.

    The foregoing not to be construed as advice. Hopefully, no typos.
    Last edited by Freightman; 11-21-2019 at 06:34 PM.

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    You are incorrect with your house edge figures Meistro....Here once again is what I am up against on this shoe..."I do know for a fact that with (the table conditions I described) the house edge is .783 %. Which means I need a TC of +2 to overcome that .783 % edge, and with a TC of +3 it gives me a .72% edge over the house."...Check out my figures here...https://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/calculator/....

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    I already told you what the house edge is Meistro, and that I need a TC of +3 to over come it and achieve a 0.72% edge for myself.....Your calculations weren't even close. Check it yourself here...https://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/calculator/
    Last edited by Ronster; 11-22-2019 at 04:48 AM.

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    What is wrong with you Meistro?.....Are you drinking or smoking or something?.....Freightman throws so much logic at you and all you can do is talk louder, and incorrectly to boot!

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    Now that's the answer I was looking for...I knew you were "the man" to ask about this riddle Freightman. Thank you for solving/shedding some light on it......ronster

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    What is causing you to be so "twisted" Meistro?

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