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    Copyright Infringement vs Fair Use:
    https://fairuse.stanford.edu/overvie...t-is-fair-use/

    I stand by my claim of copying a passage was fair use. In any case it surely wasn't "obvious" that it wasn't.
    Last edited by Midwest Player; 11-20-2019 at 12:22 AM.

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    Once again, you copied from a private forum to a public forum. It's not private if people copy content to public areas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    No idea what this is about. There has been no change in any rule. None. Period. Do I have to explain the rules for the 50th time?
    While we're on the subject Norm, I am curious and baffled on my five-day recent suspension. A poster was slamming ZeeBabar's knowledge for weeks while also finding fault with everything Zee was writing. I got sick of it and posted back to him saying if you are so smart how come you smoke two packs a day. The more he picked on Zee I gave it back until he cried to you. How come he was not suspended? Why did that warrant a five-day suspension anyway? Seriously, it is hard understanding your rules. For instance last week you threatened to bar me the next time I used the term co-conspirators while you yourself used the term conspiracy theories twice this week.

    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Norm also said
    *****Likely they will go elsewhere and talk about how they were banned as part of a deep state conspiracy or some other nonsense instead of reflecting on their own disruptive behavior.
    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    You can always start a new forum -- and be blamed by paranoid individuals of oddball, ulterior, nefarious conspiracy theories for every post by other people some guy finds offensive and pilloried under your real name for years on every open forum with claims that you are the devil incarnate.
    Even if you are saying it differently you really do deserve a suspension yourself.
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    Yes, I realize that you don't understand the simple rules. I can't do anything about that. But realize that you spend an inordinate amount of time insulting people. Seriously, politely discuss AP. That's what this site is about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Yes, I realize that you don't understand the simple rules. I can't do anything about that. But realize that you spend an inordinate amount of time insulting people. Seriously, politely discuss AP. That's what this site is about.
    But the statement I posed was

    “I think it would be interesting to undelete the posts in question, and let the membership decide if I crossed the line. Certainly, being told to go fuck myself is not anything new, and I thought my comments in response were incredibly restrained, and without crossing that new line.”

    Of course, I amend “changing the rules” to “abrupt change in manner of enforcement”. I should have also added the concept of “equity of action”

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    Can we drop all this, let it go, try to be polite, and move on. No one is going to win this argument.

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    Freightman, you have been given more leeway than most. Eventually it catches up with you. Post or don't. Up to you. If you do, be civil.

    The movers and Verizon are coming in the morning. Oddly, I have a life. I don't have time for this. Neither do the other posters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Freightman, you have been given more leeway than most. Eventually it catches up with you. Post or don't. Up to you. If you do, be civil.

    The movers and Verizon are coming in the morning. Oddly, I have a life. I don't have time for this. Neither do the other posters.
    Freightman give me a break, you received a suspension that you deserved again and you start crying to Norm about it on and on? As Norm says, you have been given more leeway than most for too long.
    And Zeebabar, Rathernotgivemyrealname, smallcap/goatlife have to chime in as well? Honestly I would be worried if the likes of you did like me lol. I stand by my posts...if Norm wants to "undelete" anything I've said to you, then I welcome it.
    Norm, I have received the hint that you do not like me lol. My participation here will be much less. Some advice to others...never mention KJ or you will not be welcomed here.
    I am not an attack guy, regardless what you guys keep trying to say.
    Last edited by Counting_Is_Fun; 11-20-2019 at 09:40 PM.

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    Maybe you can post a quote where I, or anyone else attacked you? This is getting old ugg.
    Last edited by Counting_Is_Fun; 11-20-2019 at 09:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Counting_Is_Fun View Post
    Maybe you can post a quote where I, or anyone else attacked you? This is getting old ugg.
    If you say so:

    “Or are you one of the newbies that knows a better system, and is smarter than all of us? From your posting history it sounds like you think you are. That's rich.”

    “Freightman give me a break, you are a joke...only newbies like this even listen to you.”

    “Yeah I am going to do my best not to respond to you spamming our board with stupid questions everyday know it all high roller lol.”

    “ You must be old and have a very bad memory .”

    “Good luck to you newbie you are going to need it lol. All of us here, and at Norm’s forum are only trying to help you in your misguided ways. But you know better lol. Your credibility, which is zero is fading fast lol.”

    “l...but ok what little meaning are you referring to newbie?”

    “Guy you are a clown”

    “Nobody agrees with what you say... don't you notice how nobody ever replies or agrees with your nonsense here or at Norm's site? lol. Of course now you will reply only to have the last word...you realize that you have a mental issue right?”

    “Lol you are insane guy. Irony? Yes you do the same thing on Norm's site. We laugh at you.”

    “Uhuh that's the lame response from you that I expected”

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    Quote Originally Posted by RatherNotGiveMyRealName View Post
    If you say so:

    “Or are you one of the newbies that knows a better system, and is smarter than all of us? From your posting history it sounds like you think you are. That's rich.”

    “Freightman give me a break, you are a joke...only newbies like this even listen to you.”

    “Yeah I am going to do my best not to respond to you spamming our board with stupid questions everyday know it all high roller lol.”

    “ You must be old and have a very bad memory .”

    “Good luck to you newbie you are going to need it lol. All of us here, and at Norm’s forum are only trying to help you in your misguided ways. But you know better lol. Your credibility, which is zero is fading fast lol.”

    “l...but ok what little meaning are you referring to newbie?”

    “Guy you are a clown”

    “Nobody agrees with what you say... don't you notice how nobody ever replies or agrees with your nonsense here or at Norm's site? lol. Of course now you will reply only to have the last word...you realize that you have a mental issue right?”

    “Lol you are insane guy. Irony? Yes you do the same thing on Norm's site. We laugh at you.”

    “Uhuh that's the lame response from you that I expected”
    Sorry but I have to respond to this lol...
    Rathernotgivemyrealname nice try but these are all out of context, and copied from here and other forums. And very convenient when none of your posts are there to show context.
    Anyway, I don't think many people would call most of those "attacks". Why do you always have to comment your newbie 2 cent opinion on threads like these?
    Good luck dude. And as Norm says, let's get back to blackjack.

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    The truth is an absolute defense to slander.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMass View Post
    The truth is an absolute defense to slander.
    The truth, as very well presented by RatherNitGiveMyRealName. Henceforth, I shall refer to you as RNGMRN - relieves farptigue on typing. Any typos?

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