Charges include identity fraud, forgery, forging identification cards and tampering with records.
http://www.cleveland.com/crime/index...fficer_re.html
Charges include identity fraud, forgery, forging identification cards and tampering with records.
http://www.cleveland.com/crime/index...fficer_re.html
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Perhaps the legal guys can chime in here - it's not a crime if the false name declaration is to non law enforcement personnel, for circumstances not related to government requirements of disclosure on taxable winnings, or fir non money laundering issues.Originally Posted by Norm
Regardless, seek proper legal advice before engaging in this scenario.
So, in regard to this...I've never been asked for my ID in a casino when cashing out.
When redeeming table game chips is there any amount of chips for which an ID can be demanded by a casino? Does this differ according to state/tribal laws?
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Yes, 2 common scenarios
The first is exceeding 10 k (now 9k in Canada, with different rule sets for exceeding 9k vs 10k). By law, you must provide legal identification. Whatever you do, do not provide false ID in this situation. Do not structure your payouts so that payouts are under the 10k threshold. That will get you in legal dodoo (structuring).
The second is exceeding a specific stores threshold where they will demand ID as a matter of policy. If under legal reporting requirements, you are not obligated to provide ID, though your chips may be held hostage. To avoid this scenario, especially if you know you have exceeded the casino threshold, but are still under legal reporting requirements, walk away and cash out another day, and/or split your cash out over 2 or more cage visits.
You can usually figure out what the law requires, when you ask yourself, what is the law intended to control.
In the case of fake governmental identification cards, you are prohibited from providing one to governmental agents (police, FBI, IRS, State Dept. of Motor Vehicles, etc.), or to anyone or company obligated to procure governmental identification from you for their compliance with federal/state laws (casinos or banks for compliance with IRS/DHS reporting disclosure/requirements).
So do you think the government (think IRS/DHS/FBI/Secret Service) might be interested in talking with you if you caused a CTR ($10k) to be issued, and you provided fake id to the bank or casino?
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A year or 2 ago.
Fin Cen reporting is no longer done directly to Fin Cen, rather reported to Provincial Gaming, who then report to Fin Cen. The 9k is a Gaming requirement - records only being kept for a limited time, and are not required by Fin Cen. The federal threshold is 10k - which Provincial Gaming reports.
That's the way I understand it. Others can pipe in.
An extra twist, courtesy of a gaming contact. Picture books are no longer permitted in the pit, at least in my Provincial jurisdiction. A system of names and numbers is now utilized.
Is it legal to show a fake ID to enter a casino? (assuming person is of true legal age)
Is it legal to play on a fake ID? (never creating a CTR)
If a casino security guard comes up to you and asks for ID, is it legal to show him a fake ID?
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