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    It's no secret that optimal AP play requires walking both sides of this line (mid shoe entry). When playing a good count, I'll usually nicely ask people if they would mind waiting to get in but I don't argue with them if they insist. I don't ask if anyone minds when I wong in. If someone complains, I just say "there are many hands left in this shoe".

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    Never mess with another mans flow of the cards.
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    I find that keeping a close eye on empty boxes is good, if I see someone trying to come in when I have a good count I can often repel them by quickly putting chips out on the boxes they are approaching just before they do. This often irritates people into leaving. Blocking off a couple of boxes with your chair and positioning bags, coats, and other items on adjacent chairs provides an extra barrier for them to get past too.

    Another trick is to play a box or boxes slightly to the side of where you are sitting and leave the boxes right in front of you empty as they are blocked off and less likely to fall victim to a ploppy or wonger invasion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muffdiver View Post
    It's no secret that optimal AP play requires walking both sides of this line (mid shoe entry). When playing a good count, I'll usually nicely ask people if they would mind waiting to get in but I don't argue with them if they insist. I don't ask if anyone minds when I wong in. If someone complains, I just say "there are many hands left in this shoe".
    That's what I do as well. Most people will oblige when asked. I don't like it when people don't respond to repeated requests like they are deaf. It is just rude. If you will play anyway just look me in the eye and say so. It is no big deal. I guess these meek people think they are less likely to get in an unpleasant situation if they treat you like an a*s. They are lucky they don't live somewhere that the consequences of upsetting someone can be deadly. They would be targeted as easy prey in a tough area.

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    What is the size of the casino you work in and what can you or your bosses tolerate as far as a counter and a winning session is concerned? On a 6d 10-1000 min-max table? I know counters are identified but the unsuccessful are still allowed to play. What I call my local casino's or ones that I enjoy being in and don't want the tap, I draw my line in the sand around the 500 - 1000 mark depending on how long it took to get there. Ive received a few looks like A-ha I know whats going on, but when I leave it's more like the looney tunes cartoon where the coyote and the sheepdog have been going at it all day, they clock out and it's like see ya tomorrow Ralph, yea See ya tomorrow George.
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    It has been many years, in fact several decades since I started working in a Casino. Over those years I have watched a lot of good people humbled by the casino experience, and many of them broken. I watched as good employees got greedy and made bad choices, and bad employees rose through the ranks (for reasons that still baffle me). I have seen an untold number of bj experts come into my place of business and win or lose, frequently being the same person on a different day or with a different dealer, or any other unlikely combination of events. They come and go. Although the casino business may be distasteful to many, it has been very good to me. I have raised and educated my sons, own a little property, and have something set aside for the time when I no longer enjoy going in to work. The thing is, I enjoy my work, and am an expert at it. A recent post of mine was replied to by several respondants suggesting that all pit managers do is watch sports on tv during their shift. That may seem true of the young guns, but the old-timers are still a little passionate about the place where we work and the job that we do. If those writers were right, then there would be no hassle for counters, since obviously we would not care about our employer's interests.
    Why do we want to kep high limit counters out of our shops? Next time you are in MacDonalds, ask them if they would like to share their profit with you. Ask the shop manager if he feels okay with you putting your hand in his cash registers. I think you'll probably get about the same answer as we gave a certain counter that we discouraged eighteen months ago when he came back in today to play. We do have long memories, and once you're busted, you're busted forever with us.
    As for our marketing, I have seen thousands of our promotional materials, but have never seen one that said anything about inviting "degenerates", card counters, and theives to come play. We invite recreational gamblers, people that go to movies and stock car races and hang out with beautiful people. The scum come uninvited.
    If being all of the things that Al Mucous described is unappealing to you, and you are honestly looking at a less than a six figure income, then become a dealer. Maryland is hiring for their new casino and projecting that the dealers will make 65k, plus a full benefit package, insurance, vacations, profit sharing, and the whole thing. You can go out for a beer after work and talk about the job, stuff completely unrelated to work, hang with the gang, or whatever, because the pressure is gone. You'll be able to practice your counting until you reach an expert level, and when you fly out to Las Vegas to play you can identify yourself as a dealer and all of the pitcritters (love that word) will be your friends. Or just keep trying to slink around and never get a chance to openly practice what you have spent so much time learning. But I do have to tell you, today we recognized one counter an took away all his fun and we caught one past-poster that we had arrested for cheating. By and large it was exhilerating!

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