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    At gram,

    give her a ducking break man she did nothing, you know how many games i
    burned from trading, winning 6
    figires. And even killing hole card games I’m joints I was camping at cause I didn’t want other aps there even if I wasmt
    hole carding and if I liked the dealer. fuck other aps, didnt u say ur team burned tons of games. No other aps pay my bills and I personally don’t like 80 percent of aps. Stop talking shit to her or where going to
    have a problem.

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    I think rx would admit that she's got a mercenary attitude. But I think maybe some people on this thread have somewhat antiquated views of AP. I'm not exactly an old school pro, but from what I understand there used to be an "us vs them" attitude for APs against casinos. Things also used to be more secretive, and the community used to be more close-knit. Things have changed. Now there are a lot more APs, and information is easier to come by. And now the attitude is to burn a game before someone else can burn it. I'm relatively chill about sharing information if I meet someone in a casino, but with so many mercenaries out there I can understand why burning a game seems the more rational decision. I think the solution here is that if you disagree with rx's activities, just don't share your information or work with her, and if you've got some valid criticism, present it. But even though I think her workshop will hurt games, I think that it's probably good value to noobs and I think it definitely makes financial sense for her given the current climate. Yeah, it sucks that games will get worse, but if she wasn't going to do this, someone else would have. If you find it unethical, just don't deal with her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    Yes, can you give us your assessment of how the workshop went. Did everyone have enough time to get to the workshop with only an hour lead time? How did putting all the phones in one box work out? Did anybody get the wrong phone? What would you do different if you were to do another workshop?
    Yeah no problem I’ll answer all this stuff. I’ll also expand on why I did the workshop and my overall attitude towards the AP community if anyone cares. Right now must work very tired can’t stop; don’t think I’m abandoning this thread...
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    Quote Originally Posted by houyi View Post
    I think rx would admit that she's got a mercenary attitude. But I think maybe some people on this thread have somewhat antiquated views of AP. I'm not exactly an old school pro, but from what I understand there used to be an "us vs them" attitude for APs against casinos. Things also used to be more secretive, and the community used to be more close-knit. Things have changed. Now there are a lot more APs, and information is easier to come by. And now the attitude is to burn a game before someone else can burn it. I'm relatively chill about sharing information if I meet someone in a casino, but with so many mercenaries out there I can understand why burning a game seems the more rational decision. I think the solution here is that if you disagree with rx's activities, just don't share your information or work with her, and if you've got some valid criticism, present it. But even though I think her workshop will hurt games, I think that it's probably good value to noobs and I think it definitely makes financial sense for her given the current climate. Yeah, it sucks that games will get worse, but if she wasn't going to do this, someone else would have. If you find it unethical, just don't deal with her.
    Sorry, but "if I don't do it, someone else will do it" is a weak argument. This can be misused as an excuse in order to justify everything, also bad things. What I just don't get is, why exposing a sloppy dealer to the casino in order to reduce heat, rather than silently profiting from the dealer, then go elsewhere for a while and come back later, when there is less heat? By exposing the dealer, the heat is IMHO enhanced, since the casino, which didn't obviously know its vulnerability, now knows it, and probably that there are APs hanging around, so the conditions are likely to get worse for everyone in several ways (tighter rules, more scrutiny, informing other casinos...).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goatlife View Post
    At gram,

    give her a ducking break man she did nothing, you know how many games i
    burned from trading, winning 6
    figires. And even killing hole card games I’m joints I was camping at cause I didn’t want other aps there even if I wasmt
    hole carding and if I liked the dealer. fuck other aps, didnt u say ur team burned tons of games. No other aps pay my bills and I personally don’t like 80 percent of aps. Stop talking shit to her or where going to
    have a problem.
    So if any hcers see smallcap aka goat in a casino with hc games it would be in their best interest to out him to the casino so he won't get the hc games fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramazeka View Post
    Why these interviews, with a detailed description of the AP techniques, casinos and personalities? Handing out these interviews in the public domain you can be positively evaluated only by idiots. And deeply understanding people, on the contrary, will condemn you. Money and true fame love silence !
    Newer players who are learning the game should follow the words of the above quote. True long term success at blackjack is accomplished through grinding away while blending in like any other guy, only you are always constantly learning. If you are looking for respect in blackjack among your peers you have the wrong idea. What you are earning (kept to yourself) is all the respect that you need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkChip View Post
    Sorry, but "if I don't do it, someone else will do it" is a weak argument. This can be misused as an excuse in order to justify everything, also bad things. What I just don't get is, why exposing a sloppy dealer to the casino in order to reduce heat, rather than silently profiting from the dealer, then go elsewhere for a while and come back later, when there is less heat? By exposing the dealer, the heat is IMHO enhanced, since the casino, which didn't obviously know its vulnerability, now knows it, and probably that there are APs hanging around, so the conditions are likely to get worse for everyone in several ways (tighter rules, more scrutiny, informing other casinos...).
    I'm not saying what she did is a good thing; from the few times I actually met rx, I didn't even like her. I was playing in a shop I had been milking a long time and one of rx's partners sat in my game without asking. I didn't get upset and instead shared information with them. The next time I saw them in a game I sat in the game and rx whined and called me an asshole. Like I said, she's got a mercenary attitude. But just because you dislike someone or you think something they are doing is wrong for you, doesn't mean what they are doing is objectively wrong or they are objectively a bad person. People can hold a lot of personal beliefs that they don't want enforce on others. Just because her workshop will make games worse and just because this is the first time (that I know of) that someone has decided to hold a workshop about HC, doesn't mean it was an objectively immoral thing to do. It was bound to happen. HC games have been getting worse because the information is more available now. There was always going to be a point where there was more profit to be had selling the info than keeping it a loose secret. Even GWAE is starting to talk more openly about it whereas a few years ago I think they would talk about it more guarded language. I'm sure the BJ apprenticeship guys have made games overall worse, and to the best of my knowledge, they don't seem to be bashed here.

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    Rxgamble's workshop was great. It was informative, professionally done, and discreet. They did a great job answering everyone's questions. Was a little star-struck in the beginning, I read her blog and I'm an avid GWAE listener, I got over that and learned a lot. 20/21 would take again.

    A lot of folks in this thread need to take a chill pill.
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    Wonder if positive reviews of anything/activity are all genuine or, as a dentist friend of mine implores all his friends to post good stuff on his website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Wonder if positive reviews of anything/activity are all genuine or, as a dentist friend of mine implores all his friends to post good stuff on his website.
    I can say that my review is genuine and I can see others are too. Please keep in mind that most of them who attended are new folks exploring AP world and feel that it is worth the money paid for. I feel the same too. So no need to keep on questioning on this genuineness of the reviews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryemo View Post
    Are you people really getting butthurt because rxgamble helped burn out some HC game? Jesus Christ, give me a break. If you’re not the one burning down the game, then someone else will be right around the corner to burn it down themselves. I’m sorry, but if I’m on the road and I feel like it’s in my best interest to light that casino up before anyone else does, you better believe I will. I’m not here to feed anyone else but myself.

    Casinos get hit hard all the time. Once they do, they tighten up for a while and get really paranoid. They start actively contributing more to the databases, then after a while, they ease up again and in some cases go back to normal. I feel like that’s the natural cycle of a lot of casinos.
    However in rxgamble's case, they didn't kill the game by hitting it hard which I have no trouble with anyone doing. They actually told the dealer she was flashing and ruined it for everyone. I think that is a big difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rxgamble View Post
    Sure. I didn’t know it was on me to feed anyone. Or vice versa. Pretty sure it’s not.
    So with that type of thinking, I assume you would have no problem with any pro card counter making the decision to retire from that profession and then take a job working in casino surveillance somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    However in rxgamble's case, they didn't kill the game by hitting it hard which I have no trouble with anyone doing. They actually told the dealer she was flashing and ruined it for everyone. I think that is a big difference.
    I agree. It's a despicable thing to do.

    HC teams have a history of being nasty, similar to slot teams who spill drinks on people to get them off "their" bank of machines.

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