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    Hotel room safes are not secure, in the slightest.

    That said, leaving it in your rental car probably isn't the brightest idea.

    ATM's with a bank that has a high cash withdrawal and deposit limit is your best bet, and keep a small locked box in your belt with the cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nighterfighter View Post
    Hotel room safes are not secure, in the slightest.

    That said, leaving it in your rental car probably isn't the brightest idea.

    ATM's with a bank that has a high cash withdrawal and deposit limit is your best bet, and keep a small locked box in your belt with the cash.
    Your daily ATM bank withdrawal limits can be negotiated, to a significant degree, requiring only good credit to get what you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Your daily ATM bank withdrawal limits can be negotiated, to a significant degree, requiring only good credit to get what you want.
    Correct. I've only hit my withdrawal limit twice, both when I was withdrawing cash for me and someone else (who was paying me back via Venmo). I just had to call my bank and they had it fixed within 5 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Your daily ATM bank withdrawal limits can be negotiated, to a significant degree, requiring only good credit to get what you want.
    The problem is banks don't like a lot of cash transactions. Many APs have been backed off by their bank, especially Chase.

    If you frequent a venue, get a safe deposit box to keep cash or a chip inventory. I've used hotel room safes for years and never had a problem, despite their potential problems. I suppose you could set up a nanny cam in your hotel room, in case there is an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    The problem is banks don't like a lot of cash transactions. Many APs have been backed off by their bank, especially Chase.

    If you frequent a venue, get a safe deposit box to keep cash or a chip inventory. I've used hotel room safes for years and never had a problem, despite their potential problems. I suppose you could set up a nanny cam in your hotel room, in case there is an issue.

    Not trying to be belligerent, but how does a nanny-cam get your stolen items back? Sure, you might be able to say "The maid entered my room at X:XX PM and took my stuff!". Not sure you'll actually recover it at that point though, might be better than nothing. If you do this, I would suggest setting up some sort of remote alarm that can send you a SMS. This can be accomplished for around $50 with a Raspberry Pi and a hall effect sensor or 2 beam-break sensors. (Credit: A talk at ShmooCon 2019, GitHub link here: https://github.com/4F4D414841/tripwireless ) You'll get a real-time notification that your safe was opened and react accordingly. This still has the downside of not actually preventing the theft, just more proof it happened.

    Also, the hotels in Las Vegas really, really, REALLY do not like you recording in your room. Some of us learned this the hard way at DefCon this year. AKA- Kicked out of your room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nighterfighter View Post
    Not trying to be belligerent, but how does a nanny-cam get your stolen items back?
    You have a video to show hotel security and/or police of someone in your safe. You SMS method is all well and good, however, unless your down the hall at the ice machine, there's no way you'll be able to get back to your room in time.

    Do me a favor and drop me an email at my user name at gmail. I have something I'd like to ask you off the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    You have a video to show hotel security and/or police of someone in your safe. You SMS method is all well and good, however, unless your down the hall at the ice machine, there's no way you'll be able to get back to your room in time.

    Do me a favor and drop me an email at my user name at gmail. I have something I'd like to ask you off the forum.
    Right, I was getting at that if the housekeeping staff who find your stash decide to steal it, I'm assuming that they will not stick around. Then again, I tend to give criminals too much credit and assume they are smart. But you are right, getting a SMS won't immediately stop the theft. It might tempt you to GTFO of where you are though and get to the hotel before the worker gets off shift, perhaps. Again, I still don't recommend keeping anything super valuable in the safe. Not sure what the best option is if you don't want to use an ATM, but I like the idea someone posted about a safety deposit box. A safety deposit box at a local branch isn't the worst idea, except bank hours kinda suck.

    Also, email has been sent.

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    How many cases of stolen money from hotel safe have you guys experienced? Can someone report on that?

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    Since I learned my lesson about a year ago. No more housekeeping either. No reason for it.
    "I think, therfore I can't play blackjack."
    Arnold Snyder, Blackbelt in Blackjack pg. 229 (2005)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banker View Post
    How many cases of stolen money from hotel safe have you guys experienced? Can someone report on that?
    I had one.
    "I think, therfore I can't play blackjack."
    Arnold Snyder, Blackbelt in Blackjack pg. 229 (2005)

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