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    Looking to learn SP21 indices for Secret Monkey Count

    Is anyone able to provide the indices for SP21 Secret Monkey Count. I've been researching Spanish21 and pontoon for a couple weeks now and really want to get into learning more. I know ZenMaster_Flash is around a lot so hopefully he can see this and get in contact. Anyone can feel free to email me on a throwaway if that's better: [email protected]

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    I will contact you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    I will contact you.
    Thanks you for contacting me but the throwaway email service I used didn't state it doesn't support attachments, so I didn't realize I wasn't able to open it until I got your email. Are you able to send them again to this one instead, please? [email protected]
    Sorry for the inconvenience but the help is very appreciated!

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    Here it comes:

    Check your email.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mattcloned View Post
    Is anyone able to provide the indices for SP21 Secret Monkey Count. I've been researching Spanish21 and pontoon for a couple weeks now and really want to get into learning more. I know ZenMaster_Flash is around a lot so hopefully he can see this and get in contact. Anyone can feel free to email me on a throwaway if that's better: [email protected]
    What is the BC, PE and IC for Secret Monkey Count ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by James989 View Post
    "What is the BC, PE and IC for Secret Monkey Count?"
    I use a much more difficult/stronger count.

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    answer re: this specific count ...

    I do not think that there is valid data to answer that question,

    but I would estimate:
    BC: 0.98 PE: 0.69 IC 0.99

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    Zen can you send me those indexes?

    [email protected]

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    I use a much more difficult/stronger count.

    To answer re: this specific count ...

    I do not think that there is valid data to answer that question,

    but I would estimate: BC: 0.98 PE: 0.69 IC 0.99
    Judging by the IC, this must be one of the balanced ace side count version of SMC.

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    Hi Zen,

    Is it possible to get the indices for the SMC? I’ve been using the count but only playing basic strategy so I do t think I’m getting as much EV as I should be out of my sessions.

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    I’m interested in them as well. There are two places near me that have Spanish 21. One with S17 no re-double, the other with H17 re-double. Is anyone here familiar with which would be a better bet at counting?

    I am also wondering if there’s a way that I can use my system counting Spanish 21 in either case. I use Color KO (produces Hi-Lo true counts so it’s almost like counting Hi-Lo).

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    You can't play KO with SP21
    Unbalance is +8 and EOR of 7 is near Zero

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoebe View Post
    You can't play KO with SP21
    Unbalance is +8 and EOR of 7 is near Zero
    I think I’m just going to stick to blackjack then. As much as I want to count these games near me, I don’t think it would wise. I appreciate the response.

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    Guys, if you look at ZMF's post, just below his handle, you'll see he is no longer a member here. OTOH, perhaps he pulled a Lazarus.

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