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    Labor Day beating

    I rented a room for a couple days over labor day. My business is picking up so figured I'd try to get in as much time as possible at BJ since I will have to move it secondary in my pursuits over the next couple months. I played approx. 6 hours first day and 8 hours second. Spread was 1-6 but spreading to two hands of 1-6 at TC of +4. I woke up on checkout day down about $180. Brought $2000 for trip BR. I figured I'd play a 2 hour session before heading home, but open the spread up to 1-12 since won't be returning for quite sometime. To get to the point here, I played a shoe where hit a pair of aces drew more aces split 4 times and hit very weak draws on all the aces (min bet here, was at close to neutral count). Next shoe halfway through TC +8 3 decks reaming. Time to jam it in and hit the road. I spread to 16 units. Hit a pair of aces, and sure as shit drew more aces and split to the max of 4 hands and drew the same damn shit cards as the shoe before. I mean these hands were all practically identical as the shoe before. I did get creamed here, but I can now confirm shuffle tracking and ace sequencing is a very valuable skill worth pursuing and is where I will be spending much of my free time training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleChoo View Post
    I rented a room for a couple days over labor day. My business is picking up so figured I'd try to get in as much time as possible at BJ since I will have to move it secondary in my pursuits over the next couple months. I played approx. 6 hours first day and 8 hours second. Spread was 1-6 but spreading to two hands of 1-6 at TC of +4. I woke up on checkout day down about $180. Brought $2000 for trip BR. I figured I'd play a 2 hour session before heading home, but open the spread up to 1-12 since won't be returning for quite sometime. To get to the point here, I played a shoe where hit a pair of aces drew more aces split 4 times and hit very weak draws on all the aces (min bet here, was at close to neutral count). Next shoe halfway through TC +8 3 decks reaming. Time to jam it in and hit the road. I spread to 16 units. Hit a pair of aces, and sure as shit drew more aces and split to the max of 4 hands and drew the same damn shit cards as the shoe before. I mean these hands were all practically identical as the shoe before. I did get creamed here, but I can now confirm shuffle tracking and ace sequencing is a very valuable skill worth pursuing and is where I will be spending much of my free time training.
    It wasn’t an ASM? Given the number of casinos using ASM’s, is it really worth it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    It wasn’t an ASM? Given the number of casinos using ASM’s, is it really worth it?
    No, it was a hand shuffled game, but the first time I ever truely witnessed the same slug of cards actually pop up unmixed from previous shoe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleChoo View Post
    No, it was a hand shuffled game, but the first time I ever truely witnessed the same slug of cards actually pop up unmixed from previous shoe.
    Are you kidding? Happens all the time.

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    This weekend I took a beating as well. It was so bad that as soon as I made it home I ran a few shoes in CVBJ just to make sure I was not just completely failing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notFromTheMidWest View Post
    This weekend I took a beating as well. It was so bad that as soon as I made it home I ran a few shoes in CVBJ just to make sure I was not just completely failing.
    What did CVBJ tell you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
    What did CVBJ tell you?

    My running count was never off but I had some deviation errors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notFromTheMidWest View Post
    My running count was never off but I had some deviation errors.
    Some, as in a few or not very many, deviation errors, are not enough to do it. You just had a bad run. Give yourself, or have someone audit you with a skills check, would be an idea - just to help you plug any leaks in your game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleChoo View Post
    I rented a room for a couple days over labor day. My business is picking up so figured I'd try to get in as much time as possible at BJ since I will have to move it secondary in my pursuits over the next couple months. I played approx. 6 hours first day and 8 hours second. Spread was 1-6 but spreading to two hands of 1-6 at TC of +4. I woke up on checkout day down about $180. Brought $2000 for trip BR. I figured I'd play a 2 hour session before heading home, but open the spread up to 1-12 since won't be returning for quite sometime. To get to the point here, I played a shoe where hit a pair of aces drew more aces split 4 times and hit very weak draws on all the aces (min bet here, was at close to neutral count). Next shoe halfway through TC +8 3 decks reaming. Time to jam it in and hit the road. I spread to 16 units. Hit a pair of aces, and sure as shit drew more aces and split to the max of 4 hands and drew the same damn shit cards as the shoe before. I mean these hands were all practically identical as the shoe before. I did get creamed here, but I can now confirm shuffle tracking and ace sequencing is a very valuable skill worth pursuing and is where I will be spending much of my free time training.
    Noise.....
    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Are you kidding? Happens all the time.
    I believe it. I just never really noticed it until this situation. I guess because splitting aces up to four hands and drawing duds isn't a very common thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleChoo View Post
    I believe it. I just never really noticed it until this situation. I guess because splitting aces up to four hands and drawing duds isn't a very common thing.
    Even happens at max bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Even happens at max bet.
    Too often. And the worst one is drawing another ace after splitting and not being able to resplit.

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    Man, did this post resonate! I went to LV for a blackjack tourney, busted out and then turned to playing cash with two-deck hand shuffle.. I got 3 Aces twice—and only got paid once! Couldn’t catch a break even in some high counts. Betting greens so only doing 1-4 spread but lost, lost, lost. $2000 down after 2 days.

    Then on my final session before heading to the airport, I won $2500. Would love to say I did it with my BJ skills but I am a sucker for bonus bets (I know, I know) and I hit 100 to one with a $25 side bet.

    So came home with money.


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