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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    You could put two tables, side by side, one advertising 15:10 blackjack payoffs and the other 12:10, and the latter would get just as much play as the former. There is no limit to the utter stupidity of the gaming public.

    Reference my earlier posts of Bally's A.C. side-by-side roulette tables, one with double zero and the other with single zero. First table packed, second table empty. The masses are asses.
    Don
    Agreed, but you have to remember your average casino patron just isn't that smart. They have no idea about 6:5, 3:2 or anything else. Hell it's hard enough for us counters to win at this game. I for one am glad ploppies keep coming in masses, they keep the casino flush for us to skim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Counting_Is_Fun View Post
    Agreed, but you have to remember your average casino patron just isn't that smart. They have no idea about 6:5, 3:2 or anything else. Hell it's hard enough for us counters to win at this game. I for one am glad ploppies keep coming in masses, they keep the casino flush for us to skim
    But ploppies don't help us APs if they support a rule change like 6:5 which renders useless our efforts to win at the game. They would help us if they avoided 6:5 and CSMs, so this crap would finally disappear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitthat16 View Post
    ^ Don’t forget those full triple zero roulette wheels that exist now.
    On "the strongest man in America" (a tv show on History that stars 4 of the worlds strongest men) one episode they go to vegas. The one strong man says, hey lets go play roulette, it's pretty much a 50/50. I look at the table and there are 3 zeros.....

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    If triple zero works like single and double zero, the chance of winning when betting on red/black drops from 18/37 to 18/38 = 9/19 to 18/39 = 6/13, that means from 48.65 to 47.37 to 46.15 percent. The resulting house edge then grows from 1/74 to 2/38 = 1/19 to 3/39 = 1/13, meaning from 1.35 to 5.26 to a whopping 7.69 percent (so the house edge for triple zero roulette is the same as for insurance bet). The English wiki article on Roulette seems to second this.
    Last edited by PinkChip; 08-23-2019 at 03:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueman View Post
    On "the strongest man in America" (a tv show on History that stars 4 of the worlds strongest men) one episode they go to vegas. The one strong man says, hey lets go play roulette, it's pretty much a 50/50. I look at the table and there are 3 zeros.....
    Muscle-bound jerks with no brains.

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkChip View Post
    If triple zero works like single and double zero, the chance of winning when betting on red/black drops from 18/37 to 18/38 = 9/19 to 18/39 = 6/13, that means from 48.65 to 47.37 to 46.15 percent. The resulting house edge then grows from 1/74 to 2/38 = 1/19 to 3/39 = 1/13, meaning from 1.35 to 5.26 to a whopping 7.69 percent (so the house edge for triple zero roulette is the same as for insurance bet). The English wiki article on Roulette seems to second this.
    Note that there is one bet on the standard double-zero wheel that nonetheless is inferior to all the others and has the same 7.69% player disadvantage. It's the five-number 0, 00, 1, 2, 3 bet at the top of the layout that pays 6 to 1. So, if you bet it 38 times and pick up seven chips each of the five times you win (=35), you're left with a shortfall of 3/38 = 7.68%.

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wave View Post
    @Counting_Is_Fun...^^^^^ This...
    Until you get the tab or worst the Trespass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    Note that there is one bet on the standard double-zero wheel that nonetheless is inferior to all the others and has the same 7.69% player disadvantage. It's the five-number 0, 00, 1, 2, 3 bet at the top of the layout that pays 6 to 1. So, if you bet it 38 times and pick up seven chips each of the five times you win (=35), you're left with a shortfall of 3/38 = 7.68%.

    Don
    3/38 is correct, but my calculator says this is even 7.89 percent (also mentioned by the wiki article), so slightly more (which seems logic since the denominator is a bit smaller than the 3/39 for triple zero).
    Last edited by PinkChip; 08-23-2019 at 10:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkChip View Post
    3/38 is correct, but my calculator says this is even 7.89 percent (also mentioned by the wiki article), so slightly more (which seems logic since the denominator is a bit smaller than the 3/39 for triple zero).
    Yes, correct. Sorry about that. Just blindly copied your 7.69%, which was my error.

    Don

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    No problem. These games are a rip-off anyway.

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