Counting Online Blackjack

[Castle Builder]

Hi,

My first post to the forum and thought I would make a contribution!....the below table shows some optimal conditions for counting cards at online Blackjack, and is meant as a lesson as to why it is largely a waste of time!

Online Blackjack Card Counting Table.jpg

- 8 deck shoe with 50% penetration

- Bets are not made unless the true count is at least +2. Bet 1 unit less than the true count, with the exception of the last 2 - 3 columns where the count starts to become more accurate.

These conditions are quite rare to arise in game which is what makes it a waste of time. However, there are people who play purely for fun online and playing like this (if you can) will certainly help maximise any chance of winning.

Cheers!

[UncleChoo]

Thank you! I think you saved me from being the guy who started the most toxic thread of the day.

[Dog Hand]

Castle Builder,

Welcome to the Forum!

You failed to mention how many decks were being used for the table you posted. From what you said, I assume the numbers are for an 8-deck game. If not, please enlighten us.

Hope this helps!

Dog Hand

[Castle Builder]

Yes, my apologies for forgetting that. It is indeed for 8 deck with 50% penetration, typical of most online Blackjack.

I know the question comes up quite often of ‘can I count online blackjack’. So I thought I would have a quick look at the conditions required for the game to have a chance of being profitable long term.

[UncleChoo]

Yes, my apologies for forgetting that. It is indeed for 8 deck with 50% penetration, typical of most online Blackjack.
I know the question comes up quite often of ‘can I count online blackjack’. So I thought I would have a quick look at the conditions required for the game to have a chance of being profitable long term.

I felt bad after my first comment to your post and want to apologize. It was really more of a backhanded insult to myself for creating a thread about splitting 5's. I was always under the impression you couldn't count online. I would think online casinos would go bankrupt if they offered a game that people could profitably grind. I always figured any value with online casinos had more to do with bonus hustling rather than grinding a game.

[refinery]

The silliness on this site never ends. Imagine counting online blackjack and using Hi-Low!!

[UncleChoo]

The silliness on this site never ends. Imagine counting online blackjack and using Hi-Low!!

I'm going bow out and just follow a few posters on here. Probably nothing new that can't be found digging through hundreds of past threads.

[Castle Builder]

I would think the counting system used is largely irrelevant in the first 50% of an 8 deck game. The extra accuracy of other counting methods will make little difference in exposing a more profitable situation, and not worth the increased difficulty. You could of course use a bit of computer software to do it automatically for you, then you might as well if you have time to waste.

No counting system is worth anyone's time in these games.

[Freightman]

I'm going bow out and just follow a few posters on here. Probably nothing new that can't be found digging through hundreds of past threads.

Why? Because some poorly shovelled heap of elephant dung has slung moist cranial remnants towards thee. You’re new, you’re active, you’ve contributed, you’ve qualified your comments by stating your experience level.

Some asshole pisses you off, just shove it back. Maybe give it a twist of Shakespeare “"Villian, I have done thy mother." might be a nice start.

The “Villain” referred to in this case has a hateful fan base, so I don’t think anyone will really give a shit if you flip him off. Granted, I have little experience in such matters and I am certainly trying to express my thoughts in a more direct manner, but I am making headway.

[UncleChoo]

Why? Because some poorly shovelled heap of elephant dung has slung moist cranial remnants towards thee. Your new, your active, you’ve contributed, you’ve qualified your comments by stating your experience level.

Some asshole pisses you off, just shove it back. Maybe give it a twist of Shakespeare “"Villian, I have done thy mother." might be a nice start.

The “Villain” referred to in this case has a hateful fan base, so I don’t think anyone will really give a shit if you flip him off. Granted, I have little experience in such matters and I am certainly trying to express my thoughts in a more direct manner, but I am making headway.

I'm not going anywhere. It silly though. I make a thread and reflect my honest thought process. I know a lot of you guys can see the naiveness with my thoughts and I actually welcome the criticism as log as constructive. When someone with 2000+ posts is going to just slam saying you're clueless you have no chance, it's just silly. I just need to stop taking so serious.

[crash]

I would think the counting system used is largely irrelevant in the first 50% of an 8 deck game. The extra accuracy of other counting methods will make little difference in exposing a more profitable situation, and not worth the increased difficulty. You could of course use a bit of computer software to do it automatically for you, then you might as well if you have time to waste.

No counting system is worth anyone's time in these games.

If you are going to put in the effort to try and count an online game where they might not pay our win for counting/winning why not just track every card?


also haha, Freightman I enjoy your writing style.

[refinery]

I'm going bow out and just follow a few posters on here. Probably nothing new that can't be found digging through hundreds of past threads.

Thousands of past threads. Enough threads that if you're able to get through all of Freightman's talk about his balls you'll find that there are already threads talking about spreadsheets for tracking online blackjack. Out of all those threads, maybe one will say that you would use EORs and exact composition because you're not limited by anything. In fact, other posters have made really nice examples of how this would work. So no, the count system doesn't matter for online because you wouldn't use ANY count system!

The level of conversation here has really dropped off a cliff. There are a ton of new posters with gems like:

A thread on the number of hands played. -Remind me, Don, have you answered enough questions on the number of hands played? lol

A thread on walking to the Vegas airport.

And something simply called "Damn, This Just Doesn't Seem Fair"


It's just a little frustrating. Hey, at least I was polite, brief, and accurate replying to your thread on splitting 5's. That thread went about as well as it could possibly go: your question was answered, you said thanks, and it didn't continue. You haven't been around long enough to know that threads like "Damn, This Just Doesn't Seem Fair" can sometimes go for 100 pages of posts.

Stick around and participate. Just use the search function first.

[Freightman]

I'm not going anywhere. It silly though. I make a thread and reflect my honest thought process. I know a lot of you guys can see the naiveness with my thoughts and I actually welcome the criticism as log as constructive. When someone with 2000+ posts is going to just slam saying you're clueless you have no chance, it's just silly. I just need to stop taking so serious.

Understand that you have made something absolutely crystal clear to anyone following the forum - you’re eager to learn. Don’t worry about it. In fact, following the Shakespeare line of respinse, you might want to include something a bit less confrontational, such as, "I must tell you friendly in your ear, sell when you can, you are not for all markets."