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    Is this a screenshot taken from CVCX?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkChip View Post
    Is this a screenshot taken from CVCX?
    It is.

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    Thanks, I have ordered it and will check it out in order to investigate my own counting system.

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    As Midwest has pointed out (and missed by others who should know better) it really does depend on your spread. Also you won't ever bet 7.91 and 13.61, so you'll have to take rounding, mistakes and cover into account.

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    Sigh. What a waste of everyone's time, with all the posts above. Don't you think I know what an average bet size for a SPREADING counter is????

    Read the original question, post #1. He's FLAT betting $25 as an original wager but is asking how much extra is put on the table via splits and doubles. I answered him. All the rest is answering the wrong question. Not the first time; won't be the last.

    Don
    Last edited by DSchles; 08-18-2019 at 01:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkChip View Post
    OK, 1.13 sounds realistic for the average wager when flat-betting.

    But is this number coincidentally the same as the 1.1 you mention as standard deviation in BJA3, page 16
    (std dev = 1.1 times square root of N, where N ist the number of played hands)?
    On the other hand, 1.13 is the average bet, but average is not the same as standard deviation.

    [I just looked up pages 18-20 in Stanford Wong's "Professional Blackjack" mentioned above.
    He has a benchmark: 6 decks with some rules and High-Low count using a spread of 1:10, from 10 to 100 dollars.
    For this benchmark, Wong gives a win rate (= EV) of 16 dollars and a standard deviation of a
    whopping 415 dollars, which means 41.5 units (min bets). The average initial bet is 26.54 dollars then,
    thus 2.654 times the minimum bet, not only 1.13, due to the increased bets for positive counts].
    The 1.13 has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with 1.15 s.d.; they are two completely separate items.

    He didn't ask for the average bet of a SPREADING counter. Everyone is inferring that, but it simply wasn't the question.

    Don
    Last edited by DSchles; 08-18-2019 at 01:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ummagumma View Post
    As Midwest has pointed out (and missed by others who should know better)
    Like whom, for example? You're the one who missed the question. READ!!!

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    Sorry I didn't see this till now and that you got so many wrong answers above. The answer is 1.13 times the initial wager. So, your $32 is a bit too high. We double about 10% of the time and split about 3%.

    Don
    thanks a lot for your answer, this is highly appreciated and I am sure it can benifit many people considering the answers I got like you stated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seal89 View Post
    thanks a lot for your answer, this is highly appreciated and I am sure it can benifit many people considering the answers I got like you stated.
    The help would be finding out a practical application because as far as I can tell, the number is meaningless.

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