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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    The latest GWAE podcast (The Doc part 2) can be found at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1HCQPpspXA

    The Doc is a part-time and long-time player who is an academic surgeon in real life. I suggest listening to the whole thing, but outstanding advice for new counters starts at about 14:25, talking about count selection, index plays, BR management, cover, etc.
    Thanks for the link. I love gwae...Munchkin seems like a cool cat, I wish I knew him.
    But I skip all the poker and sports betting too that I don’t care about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    Doesn't have to mean either. Having a 100-hour losing streak means, quite simply, that after 100 hours of play, you lost money. My God, it happens all the time. About a 25% probability. Let four people play for 100 hours, and one of them will be a loser. Ridiculous to dramatize this.

    And you've never had more than six straight losing sessions because you don't play properly. You're afraid to lose, and you're afraid to win. That causes, shorter, aborted, less volatile sessions.

    Don
    Wow! I've played poker for years, did decent, but never broke through to the big time. Had the skills, the knowledge and experience to make it happen. Here I open this thread and smack dab right in my face I read this post. This is the answer to a problem of mine I've been trying to figure out for a long time. Reading this phrase was actually earth shattering for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    Doesn't have to mean either. Having a 100-hour losing streak means, quite simply, that after 100 hours of play, you lost money. My God, it happens all the time. About a 25% probability. Let four people play for 100 hours, and one of them will be a loser. Ridiculous to dramatize this.

    And you've never had more than six straight losing sessions because you don't play properly. You're afraid to lose, and you're afraid to win. That causes, shorter, aborted, less volatile sessions.

    Don
    Don, you are absolutely right about me. However, you also clarified the answer I was seeking. That is, that a losing streak does not mean losing session after session with no winning sessions in between, it only means that after a 100 hours total (or 200), you have less money than you started with. In that case, I am down about $4k since I started the year, that is about 100 hours ago and thus, I can say that I am still on a losing streak even if I won some money back over the last 12 hours.

    As far as me being afraid to win or lose, it’s true. Technically, I have about $75k set aside for BJ but I usually keep my max bet under $200 and quit playing a session if I lose $2k or leave a session when up $1k (usually because I don’t want to be noticed). It’s my frugal personality that I am trying to overcome but it’s difficult after having lived frugally for 65 years.

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    I've been listening to the backlog while practicing of the last month since taking this serious.Great bits of information for someone like myself with no AP network other than reading this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    It scares me that great pros could have 100 hours losing streak. In 6 years, I probably never had more than about 6 straight losing sessions. I am thinking that when pros say a 100+ hours of a losing streak, they don’t mean losing hour after hour for 100+ straight hours. I would think it’s just that they had stayed below what they had started with for that length of time.
    I was losing at around 300 hours played twice . Once I lost half of my bankroll , the second time 1/3 of my bankroll. IT 's not that rare . You always say this is scary and that is scary . You are not equipped to play BJ by counting except for a small stake . p.s i didn't read don's response and posted .
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    Doesn't have to mean either. Having a 100-hour losing streak means, quite simply, that after 100 hours of play, you lost money. My God, it happens all the time. About a 25% probability. Let four people play for 100 hours, and one of them will be a loser. Ridiculous to dramatize this.

    And you've never had more than six straight losing sessions because you don't play properly. You're afraid to lose, and you're afraid to win. That causes, shorter, aborted, less volatile sessions.

    Don
    Extraneous comma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleChoo View Post
    Wow! I've played poker for years, did decent, but never broke through to the big time. Had the skills, the knowledge and experience to make it happen. Here I open this thread and smack dab right in my face I read this post. This is the answer to a problem of mine I've been trying to figure out for a long time. Reading this phrase was actually earth shattering for me.

    I'm not afraid to win or lose. And I'm not afraid to be barred either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by refinery View Post
    That causes, shorter, aborted, less volatile sessions.
    "Extraneous comma."

    Yup. For sure. Missed it. Guilty as charged. Thanks.

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky View Post
    I'm not afraid to win or lose. And I'm not afraid to be barred either.
    Wish I could say the same. I have some mental changes to make. I'm new to BJ but been around other gambling areas as a semi-pro for a while. I've been buying the same damn books looking for some magical equation or something. I've analyzed hand databases until I'm blue in the face looking for leaks and exploitative population tendencies. After reading a comment yesterday that wasn't even directed to me, I felt like I got slapped in the face. What holds me back from full potential isn't a technical issue it's a mental issue. I can tell already I'm on the path to letting this problem bleed over to BJ as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wave View Post
    @ UncleChoo...I hate losing as much as the next guy, but my perspective changed when I figured out I'm cheating myself if I don't put the $$$ out when it's the right time...and I'll be damned if I will cheat myself.
    I agree. I've been cheating myself for years. It's unfortunate I never put myself out there and participated in a community of like minded people, but more experienced and wiser sooner. I probably would of realized this years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryemo View Post
    Lol @ at the thought of 100 hour losing streaks. I know several players who’ve experienced MUCH crazier losing streaks. I’ve had 2 losing streaks that lasted 300 hrs or longer. Buckle up!
    Now in world casino lots of cheating.
    "Don't Cast Your Pearls Before Swine" (Jesus)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    The latest GWAE podcast (The Doc part 2) can be found at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1HCQPpspXA

    The Doc is a part-time and long-time player who is an academic surgeon in real life. I suggest listening to the whole thing, but outstanding advice for new counters starts at about 14:25, talking about count selection, index plays, BR management, cover, etc.
    Thank you for this. Excellent advice. The best of it on matters not yet commented on.

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    The Doc’s reasoning for using Hilo was the same that I used to choose it. There are more powerful counts and there are easier counts to execute (KO is arguably both), but there’s a lot of value in speaking the native language of the industry, and that’s Hilo.

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