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    European Casinos not using CSM

    Hey.. I'm from Switzerland and I wonder, if there are still casinos in Europe, which offer Blackjack without the shuffle machines (CSM).

    Do some people here know, which are the european casinos without CSM?

    Or does exist a list with these casinos?

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    Seems very tough to find one. I have never seen a dealer shoe in any casino in Europe, but not tried out very many casinos. Besides, the rules like ENHC are very unattractive, so I have given up the hope to ever decently play the game in Europe.

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    I hope there is someone, who know some casinos without CSM.... Ok.. right.. in europe they use the unattractive ENHC .... but in the other hand, most of them offer the more attractive S17 rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grobbelaar View Post
    Hey.. I'm from Switzerland and I wonder, if there are still casinos in Europe, which offer Blackjack without the shuffle machines (CSM).

    Do some people here know, which are the european casinos without CSM?

    Or does exist a list with these casinos?
    I'm sure It does.

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    Switzerland is all csm, there are shoe games in Europe but hard to find..

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    Switzerland is a rip-off, in blackjack as well as in general. Prices are way too high and quality does not justify them.

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    If all casinos in Switzerland do use CSM is just what I want to find out... how do you know, that in switzerland all casinos use CSM? Are you also from Switzerland?

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    Lack of better, a list with CSM

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    What's the story with Lugano?

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    Check montenegro casinos run by merit. You may find non-csm bj tables there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmatian View Post
    The reason europe is undesirable for blackjack is that the playable games are very far apart from each other and the maximums are very low.
    I have to agree with dalmatian in this.

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    And the minimums very high...
    (e.g. in Switzerland I saw only one 10 and one 20 CHF min table both with CSM in Davos, which corresponds to 10 and 20 USD. No 5 or 3 dollar tables for red chippers). And the 20 min table was closed because nobody could afford to play it. The 10 min table was full of people.
    Last edited by PinkChip; 08-17-2019 at 10:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkChip View Post
    And the minimums very high...
    (e.g. in Switzerland I saw only one 10 and one 20 CHF min table both with CSM in Davos, which corresponds to 10 and 20 USD. No 5 or 3 dollar tables for red chippers). And the 20 min table was closed because nobody could afford to play it. The 10 min table was full of people.
    Are we talking about shoe games here?

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