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Thread: KO with one side count, 5m7c, on par with HO2 w ASC for shoe game, no side counts

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    Oh no, this junk again!!! Your system will not be on par with Hi-OPT II with ASC.
    Last edited by seriousplayer; 08-14-2019 at 08:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogman_1234 View Post
    Quite innumerable, my friend!

    With regard to the 6,7,8,9 independent side counts, one is here forewarned on the practical implications of perfect play on stiff hands. While you are gaining near perfect efficiency with respect to the middle card side counts, one is also at risk of errors. Hence, why only "real, serious counter only!" applies to the Dogman count.

    A quick trip through ToBJ 6th Edition will render the reader *more* prepared to attack the game and palce them in the coveted 0.1% of players who are "professional" in their own right.
    Or you can simply coax (sp?) Tarzan to teach you his columnar approach (including the 6 through 9 middle grouping), and avoid having to SC 4 cards independently.
    "Your honor, with all due respect: if you're going to try my case for me, I wish you wouldn't lose it."

    Fictitious Boston Attorney Frank Galvin (Paul Newman - January 26, 1925 - September 26, 2008) in The Verdict, 1982, lambasting Trial Judge Hoyle (Milo Donal O'Shea - June 2, 1926 - April 2, 2013) - http://imdb.com/title/tt0084855/

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjanalyst View Post
    KO with one side count, 5m7c, on par with HO2 w ASC for shoe game
    Well, go to the casino and knock yourself out then.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Galvin View Post
    Or you can simply coax (sp?) Tarzan to teach you his columnar approach (including the 6 through 9 middle grouping), and avoid having to SC 4 cards independently.
    The above quote was in jest.

    Also, to be pedantic: Counting the 9 in the 6-9 column actually reduced the PE of the system at hand, as the 9 acts as a "big card" most of the time rather than vacillate between "big" and "small".

    There are other factors associated with keeping singular rank side counts as they offer different EOR's for each hand total per up-card. This means different values when adjusting the main running count of your system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogman_1234 View Post
    The above quote was in jest.

    Also, to be pedantic: Counting the 9 in the 6-9 column actually reduced the PE of the system at hand, as the 9 acts as a "big card" most of the time rather than vacillate between "big" and "small".

    There are other factors associated with keeping singular rank side counts as they offer different EOR's for each hand total per up-card. This means different values when adjusting the main running count of your system.
    Dogman_1234 - As Bill Murray’s character in Stripes would say, “Lighten up Francis!”
    "Your honor, with all due respect: if you're going to try my case for me, I wish you wouldn't lose it."

    Fictitious Boston Attorney Frank Galvin (Paul Newman - January 26, 1925 - September 26, 2008) in The Verdict, 1982, lambasting Trial Judge Hoyle (Milo Donal O'Shea - June 2, 1926 - April 2, 2013) - http://imdb.com/title/tt0084855/

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogman_1234 View Post
    Did you not learn anything from last time!?


    Introducing the Dogman Count


    The dogman Count is a level 2 count with 9 independent side counts. This allows for near perfect play with a BD of 0.99, a PE of 0.93, and a IC of 1.00!

    We start with a simple balanced Ten count with point tags [A-T] : <0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 -2>. This allows us to have near perfect insurance when it comes to accounting for it per dealer Ace up-card! To increase efficiency for Insurance, and ASC is recommended. In addition to the ASC, we will use it for accounting for drawing to doubling on all hands given. Dogman also recommends using the 6, 7, 8, and 9 side counts to get the best of all stiff draw hands. The 4 and 5 side count allows extra betting efficiency while allowing you to beat HOII with ASC & 7SC!!!! A 2, 3 side count is needed to account for drawing on all soft totals over 17.

    Sim results show that side counting all ranks allows us to play nearly perfect play and betting! Side counting all ranks is pathetically easy and anyone who is a real card-couter (and not those level one "counters" to give themselves away so easlily at the table!) can master this in less than an hour! This even beats the Tarzan/DHMC system(s) and is close to that of Eric Farmers and MGP's BJCA's! It so easy, my friend Freightman (who is not as bright as I am) learned it and is using it as part of his FBM ASC!

    Gronbog's sims demonstrate that the overal SCORE is 6.02*10^23!!! Take that HOII with ASC & 7SC!

    I would like to point out that I have always been right and that no one here can disprove me as I am very smart!

    dogman_1234,

    Your post almost made me LMAO: I only restrained myself because moving my tongue would cause me to drop my Red 4's vs. Black Q's sidecount, while shifting my gluteus maximus would cause me to drop my 3's vs. non-3's sidecount ;-)

    Well done!

    Dog Hand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Hand View Post
    dogman_1234,

    Your post almost made me LMAO: I only restrained myself because moving my tongue would cause me to drop my Red 4's vs. Black Q's sidecount, while shifting my gluteus maximus would cause me to drop my 3's vs. non-3's sidecount ;-)

    Well done!

    Dog Hand
    It certainly was well done, with an incredible purposeful hole which allowed me to express my $.02 worth

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogman_1234 View Post
    Sim results show that side counting all ranks allows us to play nearly perfect play and betting! Side counting all ranks is pathetically easy

    Sounds like a dream. Does anyone have a computer chip planted into his head, in order to keep ten different running counts simultaneously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Hand View Post
    dogman_1234,

    Your post almost made me LMAO: I only restrained myself because moving my tongue would cause me to drop my Red 4's vs. Black Q's sidecount, while shifting my gluteus maximus would cause me to drop my 3's vs. non-3's sidecount ;-)

    Well done!

    Dog Hand
    LOL!!! You should have used you left foot for your 3SC! The butt is simply for the 4 and the 8 only! Silly goose!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkChip View Post
    Sounds like a dream. Does anyone have a computer chip planted into his head, in order to keep ten different running counts simultaneously?
    Far from it!

    Years of practice and your brain will sort-of "figure it out" and "rewire" itself to account for the extra work. Much like doing mental arithmetic in your head, keeping 10 numbers floating around in your brain becomes second nature! No chips/IC's required!

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