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    Shortcut to NO

    I am not too worried about my NO because I know I will get there in this recent venture. I am sure I am several over after many decades of play. But please correct me if I am wrong but I would seriously, no trolling, speculate that games played by exact casino rules at home should count toward your NO. The cards don't know where you are playing and it is all the same. Please tell me why not. I have a feeling Don will disagree but I would just like to know. Why not a shortcut to NO???
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    Quote Originally Posted by cuts you up View Post
    I am not too worried about my NO because I know I will get there in this recent venture. I am sure I am several over after many decades of play. But please correct me if I am wrong but I would seriously, no trolling, speculate that games played by exact casino rules at home should count toward your NO. The cards don't know where you are playing and it is all the same. Please tell me why not. I have a feeling Don will disagree but I would just like to know. Why not a shortcut to NO???

    Now that is a stretch, but I suppose your wife could bar you from the premises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cuts you up View Post
    I am not too worried about my NO because I know I will get there in this recent venture. I am sure I am several over after many decades of play. But please correct me if I am wrong but I would seriously, no trolling, speculate that games played by exact casino rules at home should count toward your NO. The cards don't know where you are playing and it is all the same. Please tell me why not. I have a feeling Don will disagree but I would just like to know. Why not a shortcut to NO???
    What?

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    Don't forget to count the hands played while dreaming about blackjack. Btw it's N0 (en zero), not NO (en oh).

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    What a bunch of bullies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by refinery View Post
    What?
    Exactly what I was thinking.

    Cuts you up, I don’t think you understand what N0 is. I honestly don’t understand what you’re asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Now that is a stretch, but I suppose your wife could bar you from the premises.
    Is that a soft backup or a hard barring?
    Seriously though to the OP - are you playing online or are you playing casino verite? Further, if online, same rules, what is deck pen on your actual casino play versus deck pen on online play, as there will certainly be a difference.

    If all of this plays out, I would calculate 2 seperate n0’s - and almost certainly, your n0 will be far better on actual casino play versus online play.

    Last, but not least, I agree with Ryemo - I’m not sure that you understand what n0 means

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryemo View Post
    Exactly what I was thinking.

    Cuts you up, I don’t think you understand what N0 is. I honestly don’t understand what you’re asking.
    I read it about ten more times and understand what he's saying. I've seen the idiocy before.

    How better to put this... unless you have the ability to take advantage of an edge that presents itself, you're not affecting n0. You can't play on the computer and make a dent in n0.

    People actually wonder why there aren't more counters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by refinery View Post
    I read it about ten more times and understand what he's saying. I've seen the idiocy before.

    How better to put this... unless you have the ability to take advantage of an edge that presents itself, you're not affecting n0. You can't play on the computer and make a dent in n0.

    People actually wonder why there aren't more counters.
    Refinery exactly. By the OP's logic, then all BJ hands being played anywhere in the world would count towards his NO?
    Lol umm no.
    It's sort of scary the people who start playing this game with no basic knowledge of simple math or intuition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cuts you up View Post
    I have a feeling Don will disagree but I would just like to know. Why not a shortcut to NO???
    Well, you've read all of the above, but I'll try. N0 defines a number of hands to be played (presumably in the real world!) such that, if you were to incur a one standard deviation loss, you would break even and not lose any money.

    If you choose to play all of these hands on a simulator, are you asking for "credit" for them, when you now walk into a real casino? If you now begin your real play with some meaningful losses, do you want to claim that something is "wrong," because, well, you've already played, say, 25,000 hands on a computer, so you're "owed" that time and should no longer be losing in the real casino?

    Do you not understand how utterly absurd such a notion is?

    Don

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